Suunto SPARTAN Improved STRYD Support But Needs More

It’s taken a while but Suunto’s SPARTANs now appear to properly support the STRYD footpod.

The word “TaDa !”, springs to mind.

Prior to firmware v1.11.56, STRYD could be paired as either a footpod (pace, etc) OR as a POWER pod (only power). So if you wanted ACCURATE PACE and POWER then you would have to use STRYD plus another footpod OR just use STRYD for one or the other.

Furthermore it meant that STRYD could not be properly used in a triathlon by many people. I would suggest that many triathletes who use STRYD would probably already have a bike power meter. So in that triathlon race scenario or in a BRICK training scenario the athlete would have to manually change which single device was the POWER device….bike power meter changed to STRYD in T2.

#Messy.

Now STRYD is paired as a FOOTPOD and all is good. The power flows through the FOOTPOD profile along with the stride length, cadence, pace metrics. Just how it should be. A bike power meter is also simultaneously paired as a power POD. Just how it should be.

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NB: Superficial Testing: shows that all the correct STRYD-related data fields DO come through when paired this way

Note: When paired as a footpod SPARTAN still shows “Footpod. SERVICES Running speed & cadence“. This appears to be a bug with the wording…ignore it if you have STRYD.

Good

So now Suunto have fixed STRYD support I can go back to moaning about multi-sports support

New Sport Profiles

Err there aren’t any new ones. I thought there were going to be some. But instead there are a few new datafields for skiing. Probably a good time to include those as the ski season approaches.

I was somewhat ‘disappointed’ that a ‘professional’ multisports watch like the SPARTAN series still does not properly address multi-sports needs.

The SPARTAN does support CHEERLEADING and ROLLERSKATING sports profiles but does not support the following:

  1. Duathlon
  2. Aquathlon (swim-run)
  3. Otillo (swim-run..repeated)
  4. Brick sessions (bike-run…repeated)
  5. Pool triathlon (pool-bike-run)
  6. Any multisport profile other than triathlon=OWS-bike-run (with transitions)

C’mon people. Get with the program.

In Suunto’s partial defence it might be technically hard for them to allow the CUSTOMISATION of multi-sports by us. Maybe the multi-sports with more than 3 legs are hard for them too…fair enough. I can understand that.

However I would have thought  it would NOT be at all hard for Suunto to EASILY include a DUATHLON (R-B-R), CROSS DUATHON (XC-MTB-XC), POOL TRI and AQUATHLON profiles in the same way they have already included the TRIATHLON profile.

More info: Link to suunto.com.

 

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Gerson

My suuntolink is not updating.
I do not know what i am doing wrong.

the5krunner
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not all of my devices will update.
I imagine the new firmware will be rolled out by model and by GEO. give it a day or so

Andreas
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Andreas

Does the Spartan still insist on auto calibrate STRYD via GPS or did Suunto add options (manual calibration, calibration factor) to the menu ?

the5krunner
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auto calibrate can be disabled

JFC
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JFC

Does the Spartan line collect and display Stryd’s additional metrics beyond power, such as ground contact time, leg stiffness, form power, etc?

Chris
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Chris

Two things are unclear to me regarding using the Stryd with my Suunto Trainer.
1) Suunto themselves advise turning auto sync off if you are interested in the additional Stryd metrics due to some “problem” without specifying what they are.
2) It appears that the Suunto Trainer will only use the Stryd for displaying pace and distance if GPS is turned off altogether on the watch, which of course also leads to no track being recorded. I find this bad for going through past race events and analysing what I did and what to change.
3) I hope this is not the Spanish inquisition, so here comes #3…
Whilst I can set power zones on the watch since upgrading to firmware v2, for the life of me I cannot see how to make use of those. As targets I can only ever set pace or heart rate, but not power. Should that be possible?

Thanks for any advice.

the5krunner
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1. that’s news to me
2. so is that!! if true then not great.
3. so now i feel obliged to answer this one. IIRC the intensity target should work. Try double checking if a power unit paired up AND ACTIVE ON THE CURRENT PROFILE. (which i appreciate then comes back to the issue of how you pair stryd to the trainer) try that first and i cna have a look at mine later when i get home if you feedback what you get (or don’t get)

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Chris

ad 1) my mistake, it was Stryd support not Suunto cautioning against data merge between Powercenter and Movescount. See here https://support.stryd.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001396853-Do-Suunto-Movescount-and-Stryd-data-merge-in-PowerCenter-
ad 2) sigh, looks like it. I take it the Suunto 9 is the same in that regard? How do the Garmins handle this?
ad 3) I will check once I am home

Thanks a bunch

the5krunner
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ok on the suunto 9 with stryd paired as a footpod (not powermeter) then power zone targets are not possible. power and a pretty gps track went thru to movescount. i checked stryd settings and “running speed and cadence” were shown as a service provided by stryd. i don’t know if they were actually taken as the source for display

the5krunner
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PPS get your data out of movescount and into dropbox, probably you can do that with tapiriik or fitnesssyncer for a dollar a year. once in dropbox you can upload to free golden cheetah. do all your power stuff in there.
movescount and garmin conenct are fine for an overview but not for any analysis IMO

the5krunner
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yep. so i was right (for once). if you then go and pair stryd as a powermeter then a running profile still picks it up as a PM. AND THEN the power targets can be set but only by zone (tho that’s ok)
i’d imagine that is all exactly same for the trainer.

Chris
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Chris

I unpaired and re-paired the Stryd to the Trainer. If I do so as a Power Pod, it shows up its services as “cycling power”.
Calling the running power profile (that normally connects to the Stryd when paired as a footpod as per instructions), it looks for satellites and heart rate, but not for a bluetooth pod of whatever denomination.
Blimey.

On a possibly related note I did notice for the first time that the automatic calibration of the Stryd can be disabled now in the settings on the watch. I am pretty sure that this used to be impossible (at least during pre v2 firmware times?).

the5krunner
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IIRC yes the autocalibration was changed at some point. quite a while ago i think?