Suunto Confirm The Way Ahead

Suunto have today confirmed their plans for the MOVESCOUNT platform over the next year or so.

As you can probably guess from the image to the right what we will see is a complete migration from MOVESCOUNT to the Suunto app.

The ‘new’ Suunto app was effectively launched alongside the Suunto 3 Fitness in April 2018. At the time, the 3 Fitness marked a new move for Suunto at a lower price point with innovative features and a new target audience in mind. The new naming convention of a single number ie ‘3’ then later heralded the Suunto 9 and, presumably there are more ‘numbers’ to follow next quarter or the quarter after (I don’t know that for sure but…I can count).

Back in early 2018, the new Suunto app also seemed very closely linked to the Sports Tracker app (NOT SportTracks) that Suunto also owns. Indeed those two were probably built on a common platform and it seems that this is the platform that best suits Suunto’s needs to take them forwards with the entire range.

Suunto 3 Fitness – First Look, First Runs, Hands On – Not a Review

Bye Bye Movescount

The MOVESCOUNT platform took me a while to get used to and, generally, I eventually liked it but if Suunto want to move on from that I have no personal issues in leaving MOVESCOUNT behind. I never did like the name but I did really like some of the innovative features like HEATMAPS – although perhaps that was the artistic side in me coming out when I drooled over images like this (London)There will be many concerns for existing users about, for example, their historical data and about the retention of existing fuctionality. I can’t allay those fears myself but I’m sure there is someone at Suunto in charge of that. And there are links below to a more detailed look

2020

Today’s announcement says that Suunto Movescount will close down in the Summer of 2020 at the EARLIEST.

Precious historical MOVES (completed workouts) will be migrated.

Jan 2019

But that’s all a long way away. It’s further re-assuring to note that the Suunto app has, indeed, moved on over the last year and Suunto themselves note the addition of these features

  • connection with key sports services – eg Strava
  • customizable social sharing – choose what training data to share
  • activity-specific heatmaps and route planning – Suunto 9 and Spartan
  • sport mode customization – Suunto 9, Suunto 3 and Spartan
  • basic compatibility for Ambit3 and Traverse, Traverse Alpha and EON Dive computers.

In fact, I was only just looking at the Suunto 9 on the Suunto app yesterday when I was playing around with SPORT MODE CUSTOMISATION and the addition of running power data fields for STRYD.

As you can see from the images from yesterday, below, there are some important messages about the implication of linking to the Suunto app if you still want to stay connected to MOVESCOUNT.

 

 

My advice to you? If it ain’t broke for you…don’t try and fix it by moving to the new app. stay with MOVESCOUNT for now and let everyone else sort out any new bugs on the app.

What Data Will be LOST in the Transfer

By ‘lost’ I mean ‘not transferred’ – my comments against each

  • Personal information including body metrics – can easily and quickly be re-entered, I guess.
  • Routes – gpx route import is now in beta and so you will be able to import your routes into the Suunto app.
  • POIs – not sure about how you would transfer these.
  • Suunto Movies – Doesn’t affect me but I imagine if it affects you then you will have to let them go.
  • Groups you belong to – don’t know
  • Events that you are attending – not important
  • Training programs – We recently saw Suunto’s intent to link to Suunto Training plans on TrainingPeaks, so this area of functionality is going to get real-interesting, real-quick. I’m looking forwards to see how this area pans out.
  • Suunto Apps for your watch created by the Movescount community – We’ve also seen the opening up recently of the possible ability to create new functionalities for Suunto.
  • Device settings – Suunto’s standard (non-customisable) sports profiles still seem to all be there in the Suunto app. Re-creating new ones is a minor PITA but I do that every week with some device or other…welcome to my world πŸ˜‰

ie Your MOVES will NOT be lost.

Where is the Future Focus?

This is a good question and the answer is clearly stated by Suunto to be Suunto 3 Fitness, Suunto 9 and Spartan Collection watches., Is AMBIT in that list….nope. But there is basic compatibility in the Suunto app for Ambit3, Traverse and Traverse Alpha Collection – more info on that linked to below.

Compatibility for Suunto 9/7/5/3/2/4/6/8/10 and Spartan covers this:

  • synchronization of training data and ability to view and analyze workouts in Suunto app
  • synchronization of 24/7 data such as steps, calories and sleep data
  • enriching your trainings in Suunto app with images, videos and descriptions (old movies not transferred)
  • ability to sync to sports services and other partners integrated to Suunto app
  • social sharing of trainings
  • notifications from your mobile phone on your watch (works well on Suunto 9 for me FWIW)
  • route planning and sport mode customization
  • watch GPS optimization

Take Out

What it looks like is happening is the work of Captain Obvious.

Namely that Suunto are focussing on current and future products and giving them a future platform to work in that is strategically more straightforwards to maintain. By that I mean that they seem to be moving away from trying to provide complex, post-workout analyses, apps and training plans. That never-ending ‘hard stuff’ looks to being effectively outsourced to existing 3rd party platform. Even Garmin do that to some degree (TrainingPeaks) so it absolutely makes sense for a company of Suunto’s size.

I guess CHANGE always creates uncertainty but CHANGE should also be for the better.

 

Suggestions to: Suunto App Forum

More Info: Suunto.com

 

 

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Hi mate! While I could understand your POV, I can’t agree totally with the way Suunto is doing things. Yesterday, they published that press release. There, they had got the opportunity to write whatever… But they chose to put what is on it. And just that, and I can figure they thank on it widely and slowly. So no errors can’t be found on it. I mean: A) We -users- must assume that workout deeply analysis capabilities (on a big screen computer, for example) and some features (as planned workouts, external apps -on Ambit3-) will disappear. B) We must assume that Ambit2 support will be expired on 2020 (while TomTom, even after abandon sport market 2 years ago, still maintain their platform and gives support to their users). There is a possibility (not specified in the document) of giving users some kind of utility to export their workouts from their Ambit2 watches, but probably after a lot of shouting and tantrums from the users). C) We must assume Suunto wants to give external services a way to sell their services using Suunto users data. This is a good thing, finally, because users could choose in the market for better, deeply… Read more Β»

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I lost a whole bunch of data from 2018 when moving across, too difficult to isolate which entries and I suppose it’s all on Strava if I needed the history. An inconvenience nonetheless.