SportsTracks 3- no more

golden CheetahWell. I have to say I’m hacked off about this.

First it was Google Earth requiring payment from developers that meant my images on SportTracks had watermarks all over them – I did find a workaround that involved giving Google my credit card details.

Then it was finally figuring out after two years that it was the TRAININGLOAD plugin that was slowing down the startup of ST3.1.

Now it looks like SportTracks is being frozen in time.

I think frozen is a better way of saying it. It sounds better than de-supported. I assume ST3.1 will still work. It’s just that if there is some errant tweak in .NET or on Google Earth then you’re stuffed.

Announcement from Zone Five Software…below. Grrr.

If XERT can create a multi-sport environment I’d probably switch to that and use some of FINALSURGE’s upcoming functionalities for other stuff.

Final Surge

I’ll still use Golden Cheetah for weird stuff. Either that or set decent amount of time aside to really understand all of it…there’s a lot to understand.

Maybe I should just accept that 2019 has arrived and stop living in 2009.

Training Peaks. nah. You might want to have a look at STRAVISTIX/ELEVATE

STRAVISTIX – ELEVATE – Deeper Analysis with ELEVATE for STRAVA aka STRAVISTIX

 

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Zone Five Software strives to provide useful and innovative solutions for technically focused fitness athletes training with data. Achieving that goal requires we focus on where the future tech trends and customers are going. In support of that goal Zone Five Software announces the end-of-life and end-of-sales dates for the SportTracks 3 (ST3) Windows PC software app. The last day to purchase a license for the ST3 product is June 30, 2019.

The ST3 product will reach end-of-life on March 31, 2020. Before the end-of-life date Zone Five Software may continue to provide software patches for issues assessed as urgent or critical in nature. At this time there is no software patch planned.

After March 31, 2020, we will no longer take support issues, offer software updates, or provide any support infrastructure for online services related to the ST3 Windows PC application operation including the support website, license management, or plugin registry.

We invite all customers to transition to our SportTracks online product [LEARN MORE]. Customers with an existing ST3 license can use the free Cloud Sync feature in ST3 to migrate their workout history, fitness health metrics and gear details in a few easy steps. The SportTracks online product has a 45-day free trial offer.

To maintain the integrity of your data and fitness tracking workflow we strongly recommend that you transition to our SportTracks online solution or another fitness tracking solution and de-install the ST3 software on or before the Software end-of-life date.

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21 thoughts on “SportsTracks 3- no more

  1. Disappointing but not unexpected. I was determined to stick with ST3 – really didn’t want to trust my data to the Cloud, would much rather have my own store. Became a pain when direct sync from Garmins stopped working, but I persevered, doing manual export/import, just to get the data store.

    however, gave up a few months ago, as finally accepted they couldn’t care less about the product as they fully committed to the mobi site.

    though I know everything is going Cloud, not sure it’s a great strategy for them – they’re now competing against bigger and better companies, where they had a unique proposition for desktop software – which I imagine plenty of folk are keen on.

    • yeah i agree. unfortunately at the last point you make i think it falls over. not sure there really are that many of us left. let’s hope they open source the code.

      • I still care about having a desktop repository for all of my running data. ST3 is actually a perfect case in point. Imagine if all of my data were on the cloud right now and the company decided to change the terms of service ($$$) or had to shut down unexpectedly? At least with ST3, I have an XML based logbook that I can get all of my information out of + my original .FIT files. Can’t say that for the cloud.

        Just not sure where to go next…all I really need is the basics and a training load calculator.

          • Thanks for the tips, 5k! I use Garmin Connect, which is free and provides a nice, portable interface for eyeballing my progress, but nothing to get into the nitty gritty that I’m looking for. Golden Cheetah looks interesting, but mainly geared toward cyclists. That may be worth checking out, though. If the reporting is good out of the box, that may work as I gather my bearings. There’s another one called TurtleSport that looks good. Hasn’t been updated since 2017 and I didn’t see anything about reporting in the screenshots, but it’s open source and looks very similar to ST3. The others I found appear to be cloud based, which I totally understand from the perspective of a developer (full control of updates, a continuous revenue stream, not having to troubleshoot a user’s computer, etc.), but I won’t be going that route, mainly because I want full control of my data and don’t want to pay a continuous revenue stream for something that should be a one-time purchase.

            I may actually put something together for myself, starting with the raw data and statistics, and some charting. There appears to be enough information online for the training load calculations to do it myself. It’s really a nice, polished frontend that would take time, but I think I could do something quick & dirty for myself.

            ST3 is pretty much out for me. It’s unable to import the .FIT files from my FR935, I believe ever since I added the Stryd ConnectIQ plugin. I’m sure I can work around that, but the writing is on the wall. Time to find something new!!

          • it should be able to import them
            tho you might have to use the OMB iFIT importer…which may no longer be available for purchase ๐Ÿ™
            ciq files will always cause some platforms issues who have not implemented the full fit file spec
            one option is to always use (paid for) fit file repair tool to repair/change the format of workout files eg to tcx, which would, for example, put cached hr data back in the right chronological place.

          • Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the FIT SDK and I’m on my way! They have a sample decoder in c# and all of the data I’m interested is there in the files for the taking! I’ll have no problem converting to other file formats. I’m pretty much convinced that I need to come up with my own system. I always wanted more control over the reporting, and now is the time to make it happen!!

        • And that’s a real risk these days. So many companies are moving to the cloud but don’t have good data security plans in place (some don’t even seem to understand the issue.) Nor do they understand how going to the cloud can break the value of their product for at least parts of their customer base.

          These companies are literally dumping the loyal customers because someone in the company thinks “the cloud’ model is better for business, but unfortunately it means a product that works more poorly, especially if one is without web connectivity.

          Neat is a great example of how bad this can be. Fantastic product but created a market for competing products over night by moving to a cloud based analysis and storage model: for a product you us to scan financial data! Only a fool puts his financial data in the cloud… and worse yet, now I’d have to make sure my internet connection is solid so that all the back and forth of analyzing my data and making it available to me works. Bad internet connection = Useless product.

          Sadly, it looks like Sport Tracks is going the same way. Time to start researching an alternative.

          • it’s a tricky thing to monetise. I suspect sporttracks ditched the one-off desktop payment in favour on an annual cloud subscription. i can certianly see the attraction of that
            I have talked to st3.1 plugin developers and they said that ‘people jsut want free stuff’ …give them the option of paying ‘if they want to’ and people simply don’t, on the whole.
            golden cheetah is the free desktop software to go to.

      • Maybe, but I’m not sure – anecdotally I know a lot of people (admittedly in a running club) that would much prefer local storage, I know that is quite a niche market, but certainly when you replicate that out, I’d say there would be enough for something viable. I’d be very tempted to pick something up if it got Open Sourced, but starting from scratch would be too much of an undertaking…

    • Yep – not just the cloud issue for me… I find the desktop version has a much cleaner interface, where the smaller fonts and distinct panels with clear demarcations make it much easier on the eye for viewing, Never really got on with the web version which just looks too โ€œbusyโ€ to really focus on anything.

  2. So its all because of Training Load plug-in?? How did you fix this? just uninstall the plug-in? I really like it and there is no equivalent except for Stravistix…
    thx!
    6co

  3. Disappointed!! like you guys. Windows 7 support ending next year too. A double whammy for me. I tried Golden Cheetah, but geared towards cycling if you excuse the pun and a bit too complex for my liking. Turtle sports seems to work quite well, simple to use. I am also testing training lab. Which has a limited direct watch sync, but my Garmin 230 can be accessed and fit files downloaded. Like you guys, I have 10 years worth of files to download, individually through SportTracks using the file converter plugin. Itโ€™s a shame, as SportTracks 3.0 does everything I need from a running/bike/weight training/swimming log. Without the security risk of loosing information or personal information being misused. Thatโ€™s so called progress for you. Kind regards Mervyn, a veteran 68 years young runner.

  4. After several years using ST, this definitely didn’t come as a surprise as ST was slowly getting stale.
    After much research, I have adopted MTB (http://mytourbook.sourceforge.net/mytourbook/).
    GC being too much geared towards cycling and at first glance it seems that one needs a PhD to be able to use it ๐Ÿ™‚

    MTB is a great alternative to ST and is VERY actively being developed.

    While I understand most of the industry players are moving to the cloud, I am not sure that every customer is wanting that marketing model and I am sure there should be choices so every athlete can make their own and not be forced down their throat something that doesn’t fit them.

    I personally want to own my data locally and want to be able to analyze my athletic endeavors deeply

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