Garmin Instinct Review
This Garmin Instinct Review looks in some detail at Garmin’s latest outdoors and hiking watch with an updated section for Solar. As we shall see, it is a sweet combination of practical outdoors features, a good price and a sensibly rugged exterior. Let’s start off with a summary followed by MUCH more detail for those who want that.
Product Name: Instinct
Product Description: Adventure and Sports GPS Watch
Price - 85%
Apparent Accuracy - 85%
Build Quality & Design - 85%
Features, Including App - 85%
Openness & Compatability - 90%
Well-featured, mid-price outdoors and GPS sport watch
Depending on how you want to see it, the Garmin Instinct is either “a cut-down Garmin Fenix” or “a featured-up Casio“. However, even with fewer features than found on the Fenix, that STILL LEAVES A LOT OF FEATURES that are included in the Garmin Instinct. The Instinct itself focusses on the ‘core’ features that are most useful and most needed for outdoors and hiking buyers.
Even saying that there are still lots of bonus features, for example, you get GALILEO+GPS satellites, a compass and a barometer thrown in for good measure. And you get those on a rugged and well-made device that will keep going in the wilderness for several days in certain modes.
Whilst you will not have ANY of Garmin’s CIQ apps you will, instead, get access to the Garmin Explore app to give you way markers & courses. Whilst you also get breadcrumb trails on the Instinct to help you navigate, you will only get ‘proper’ maps on the accompanying Explore app.
The Instinct has a certain aesthetic that many like. I would certainly consider the Garmin Instinct if your budget is around £200/$300. That’s over half the price of some of Suunto’s or Garmin’s high-end outdoors watches. Indeed if your budget is limited I’m not sure what real choices you have if it’s features you want…sure you could go for the Casio WSD-F20 or WSD-F30 but they are ‘large’ watches with a still-higher price tag and I’d tend to trust the Garmin more for multi-day usage.
The full specs and details follow below
- Significant ‘pro’ feature set
- Significant ‘pro’ hardware features like a barometer, compass, battery life & galileo
- Rugged build quality
- Solar version add the potential for significant battery life increases
- Aesthetics will only appeal to some
- Breadcrumb routes only. Maps on app.
This review is fairly long. Skip ahead to the section that most interests you or pour yourself a big coffee, sit back and enjoy the ride…I mean, hike 😉
Who buys a Garmin Instinct?
The Instinct has good outdoors functionality for hiking and fairly good sports functionality added in. The screen is somewhat limited in size/resolution but the accompanying Garmin EXPLORE app, Garmin Basecamp and Garmin Connect platform all boost the Instinct’s attractiveness as does the Instinct’s great battery life.
Richer and perhaps more serious outdoors enthusiasts will favour the Garmin Fenix 5X Plus or the Suunto 9 BARO but these are not the direct competition. Really the competition might come from manual devices or hand-held navigation units or the direct competition of outdoors watches like the Suunto Spartan Trainer OUTDOOR, the Casio WSD-F30 or your smartphone-plus-an-app.
But if you are an OUTDOORS ADVENTURER or HIKER looking for a watch offering these features: Barometric altimeter; GPS+Galileo/GLONASS; magnetic compass; multi-day battery; ability to follow breadcrumb routes and navigate to waypoints, then I don’t think you will find anything else at all at the same price point as the Instinct. If you want a device that can also properly track many sports to a recreational level then the Garmin is a winner there too.
OK, the screen is small with a low resolution and there are not onboard maps but the Instinct IS a SWEET device as we shall see as I also cover some of the EXTRA goodies that I’ve not even mentioned yet.
Garmin Instinct Solar Review Update for 2020
The Garmin Instinct Solar (2020) gets a significant battery life update with the addition of solar charging, power management profiles and more power-efficient internals like Garmin’s latest (and best) optical Heart Rate Monitor (Elevate). These relatively trivial additional features are also added
- PulseOX – blood oxygen monitoring. Only useful at altitude if you’re otherwise fit.
- Optical HR enabled for pool swim and open water swim
Several other Garmin Instinct Solar Reviews incorrectly state other features that are ‘new’ to the Solar version which have been added to the non-Solar through firmware – see HERE.
Unless you specifically want the improved heart rate monitor and super-long battery life, there’s little point in getting the Garmin Instinct Solar. Save your self £$£$£$.
Unboxing & Basic Usage
You get a watch and a USB charger. You know the drill.
If you are new to Garmin then you will want to set up a Garmin CONNECT account via the app and you might want to also download the GARMIN EXPLORE app and Garmin Basecamp before you start off. Using the Garmin INSTINCT is mostly intuitive but here is a link to the Garmin Instinct Manual if you need that to find some of the more hidden away features.
The Instinct is good-to-go for most things straight out of the box. So you can use the compass or look at your elevation, record your hike or start a sport straight away. And if you are an existing Garmin user you will be able to put your existing knowledge of your current Garmin to good use to get off to a more customised quick start as the INSTINCT has a similar look and feel to other, recent Garmin devices.
However, if you are new to Garmin and looking to do more complex route creation and navigation then you’ll need a little bit more time and patience figuring how to do just that. It’ll be worth the investment of your time but I’ll need to explain routes and navigation in a bit more detail later. Similarly, if you want to customise how the watch handles sports then you can, I’ll cover that here as well but not in as much detail as I normally would as this review is focussed more towards you Hikers and Outdoors Adventurers.
You will probably mostly use the Instinct for
- Waypoint Navigation & navigating by compass (it’s a magnetic compass, as used in Sight & Go Mode)
- Navigating over a predefined course/route (breadcrumb navigation)
- Track Back over your route OR being pointed back to your start point.
and from time-to-time, you will find these hiking-specific features useful to better appreciate your environment from every perspective
- Live Weather including barometric-based storm alerts, Sunset & Sunrise times, Atmospheric pressure, temperature
- Elevation profile when following a course/route
- Your Latitude Longitude based on GNSS
- Ascent/Descent/3D speeds
- There are also hotkeys and ‘Area Calculation’
Missing from those lists is ROUTE CREATION, I’ll cover how you do that in EXPLORE or BASECAMP – there are other ways too.
Within the NAVIGATE profile, you can choose to ‘Sight and Go’. This effectively turns the INSTINCT display into a magnetic compass.
Other outdoors and sports watches might have a GPS-based compass, which is OK, but the GPS-based compasses don’t always point in the right direction when stationary unless used in conjunction with an internal accelerometer. That can all get quite complicated and it must just be easier to have a magnetic compass-like with the INSTINCT.
You can calibrate the compass whenever you like and set NORTH to be true North, map North or magnetic North. If you choose TRUE North then I’m not entirely sure how that is determined without knowing how to set the compass declination. Declination is often only a couple of degrees so I guess it won’t make too much difference for most people, most of the time.
The altimeter appears to be predominantly a barometric altimeter. I find these are generally pretty accurate over a couple of hours but beyond that changes in atmospheric pressure seem to often impact accuracy in the absence of re-calibration.
The INSTINCT DOES auto-calibrate your starting altitude based on GPS, although you can turn that off or set the starting elevation manually if you prefer. You can even force an auto-calibration manually mid-hike (!!). Putting that to one side, I’m not entirely sure how the INSTINCT handles these scenarios
- A 3D-GPS fix normally takes a little longer than a 2D one when you start the watch, say at least 30 seconds longer. 3D GPS is disabled by default. I would imagine that 3D-GPS would find the GPS-derived starting altitude to a more accurate level than 2D? I could be wrong.
- If you are navigating to a waypoint created from EXPLORE then EXPLORE ‘knows’ the correct altitude but the INSTINCT appears NOT to auto-re-calibrates the ELEVATION when it reaches that point?
- Some other vendors (Suunto) have a concept of FusedAlti whereby the elevation is corrected based on a periodic GPS-altitude reading. Again the INSTINCT appears not to do this and would benefit from it for those of you concerned about correct elevation.
Having said all of that, if you are halfway up a vertical rock face in the Alps then I would imagine that most GPS watches will find it extremely difficult to get a correct GPS-derived elevation (ie its impossible) so the barometrically derived value is likely to be the most correct in the more extreme scenarios where precision might be especially useful.
Navigating electronically via waypoints is probably the next step up from using a paper map.
To do this you will normally have determined the points you want to navigate to before you start out and sync’d them to your INSTINCT. As you navigate, your INSTINCT points you in the right direction to the next waypoint. That’s kinda OK, but there might be a lake in the way. If used in conjunction with a real map then this can be a fun way of getting from A to B.
One of the great things with the INSTINCT and its link to the Garmin EXPLORE app on your smartphone is that you can use the ‘real’ map on the EXPLORE app to set new waypoints and then sync them to your INSTINCT for a more refined navigational experience.
I suppose, instead, you could entirely use your smartphone’s map and the phone’s GPS but a wristwatch can be a little bit handier and, no doubt, you will be keen to save the battery on your smartphone 😉
However, a 2020 update allows Komoot to sync routes with Garmin Connect
Creating a route and navigating it
REMEMBER: any route on your GARMIN INSTINCT is merely a directional or breadcrumb trail of multiple points. If you go off track when following the route, the GARMIN INSTINCT DOES NOT have any map-based intelligence to route you back sensibly to your course. It is NOT like your car’s SATNAV in that respect.
You can create your route in many ways, using many pieces of software. There may then be an easy or a convoluted game you have to play to get your GPX/TCX route file onto your Instinct via Garmin Connect. I can’t cover all those ways here, please feel free to add your favourite in the comments further below.
One example is that you could upload a GPX route file from your desktop into Garmin Connect online and, from there, automatically sync it to the INSTINCT either via the cable or Connect app.
Probably the easiest method of route creation is to stay within the Garmin ecosystem.
Using the Garmin Connect app you have several route creation options. Here is one where I chose the start point for a 5km round trip in the UK’s Peak District. I told Garmin Connect to start off to the North and it automatically created the round trip route of the required distance. I later added a few waypoints and double-checked the image by switching to satellite view – all was good. Creating, adding points and syncing this impromptu, round-trip route easily took less than 5 minutes.
Personally I would prefer to use Garmin Connect on the web instead of the Garmin Connect app. I like the finer control from using a mouse and being able to more easily drag a mid-point of the route to ‘somewhere else’ and have the course adjust accordingly. However, out-in-the-wilds that option is off-the-cards and so it is good to have the fallback position of the Garmin Connect app.
- Route creation within the Garmin ecosystem can use their proprietary POPULARITY ROUTING (heatmap) which is based on a large database of previous journeys by other users. If you are planning a hike on a well-trodden path then most of you will be good-to-go here.
- I had mixed success with waypoints. On some occasions, the INSTINCT recognised that I’d arrived at the waypoint yet at other times even though I was within a few metes of the waypoint it was not recognised. I’m not entirely sure why this happened.
- You can see on the 4th image, further above, the ‘+’ and ‘-‘ signs. The INSTINCT DOES let you move around the map and zoom in/out.
- If you have chosen to record a WALK ‘ACTIVITY PROFILE’ on your INSTINCT then you effectively attach the COURSE via the WALK’s NAVIGATION/COURSE settings. It is a little confusing but many vendors follow that same principle.
- You can configure the WALK sport in many ways to, for example, include metrics like SPEED, ELEVATION, VERTICAL SPEED, ETA and so on. It looks to me like just about every common metric is included for walking/hiking.
The Instinct has got a lot of great navigational stuff however when compared to the ‘elite’ navigation watches like the Garmin Fenix 5X Plus it lacks these features
- Instinct has a notably smaller screen with a lower monochrome resolution
- Instinct lacks premium case materials and interchangeable straps – although the INSTINCT is built to a tough, military standard of durability.
- Instinct lacks Garmin CIQ apps. Some 3rd party Garmin apps are pretty cool and pretty handy for outdoors activities eg KOMOOT. You do NOT get those
- Instinct lacks an inbuilt map and the ability to perform re-routing
The Garmin Explore app is free and does NOT require any Garmin watch. It comes with free, detailed maps and satellite imagery. If you like it’s the app-equivalent of a paper map and compass.
The Garmin Explore app is NOT like your SATNAV. It only understands GPS points and does not have any understanding of roads or trails so, just like with a paper map, you have to work out a new route yourself. Explore does, however, store waypoints so you can get a bearing and proceed towards it accordingly.
Garmin Explore is a nice tool that, over time, lets you build and organise collections of waypoints, tracks and routes. The key areas of what it does for the Instinct owner are as follows
- It provides the link to get navigational stuff onto the INSTINCT whilst on the move.
- It has a proper map and satellite imagery (like Google maps)
- It can store all your waypoints (single GPS positions, with elevation and your annotations)
- It can store all your activities (completed journeys you made)
- It can store all your tracks (a planned journey effectively made up of many hundreds of GPS points)
- It can store all your routes (a planned journey made up of waypoints)
You can then organise these by ‘collections’. So, for example, you could have a series of tracks that you might follow for your HOLIDAY2021 collection or you might organise 50 waypoints together that are in your local national park. That sort of thing.
Garmin Base Camp
Garmin Base Camp is computer-based software similar in functionality to the Explore app. It’s old software but still useful.
One big difference to the Explore app is that BASECAMP *DOES* contain routing intelligence. Thus you can choose 2 points and BASECAMP will give you turn-by-turn instructions to get from one to the other, unlike EXPLORE which would only give you a bearing (straight line).
The big downside to BASECAMP is that you do not have it in a portable app format and much of the same routing and mapping functionality is now also available in Garmin Connect which, as we’ve seen, does work on the smartphone app.
Much of the rest of this site dwells on sports usage, I won’t do that here. If you have any specific questions then please ask below in the comments.
The INSTINCT is a nicely competent sporty device intended for the casual athlete.
I’ve used the Garmin INSTINCT a fair bit for running and swimming, although not as much as I would have liked. It’s perfectly OK to use with a nicely readable screen. It’s a little bulky and compensates for that by being super lightweight. On the other hand, it’s not so great for cycling where I didn’t get on with it too well because of the smaller screen format. But if you are using the INSTINCT simply to log your trail rides then it’s perfectly fine, I just found that I liked a bit more cycling sensor data on the screen and the INSTINCT couldn’t deliver there. That’s just me though…I know I need a sports watch really!
You can check out the detailed specs later and the accuracy of use for each sport but, for now, I will briefly cover a few sports and highlight some features (or lack of) that stood out for me.
Running – Garmin Instinct Review
Perhaps most noteworthy is the battery life of 40 hours in ULTRATRAC battery mode. This cuts back on the frequency of GPS points taken and save power that way. It’s thus a great, rugged watch for you UltraRunners and fell runners as long as you don’t mind a less-than-perfect GPS track at the end for your logs.
A run-walk mode is available as are other handy in-run features like laps, autolap, alerts and calories. I specifically liked the ‘proximity alert‘ where, for example, the INSTINCT can tell me if I am 600m away from a give WAYPOINT.
Also useful is the ability to invert the screen ‘colours’ either for personal preferences or when there are unusual light conditions.
You can follow predefined and complex workouts that you create on Garmin Connect or create a simple interval workout, with repeats, on-the-fly.
Cycling – Garmin Instinct Review
As already noted the Instinct is too small a watch format to use as you ride. The beeps and vibrations are good to draw your attention to the INSTINCT when traversing a ridden trail, however it’s hard to see anything much more useful than following a bearing as you bounce along. Of course, if you periodically stop then it becomes as useful as it is when running/hiking and you can take the time SAFELY to dwell on what the INSTINCT is telling you.
I would feel more confident taking the INSTINCT on some trail rides than other expensive watches. The INSTINCT is rugged and durable and I would not be too concerned if it got the occasional knock.
Most casual athletes will be pleasantly surprised by the breadth and depth of features offered by the INSTINCT. But f you’re a triathlete with a power meter going for those STRAVA segments then you will be disappointed. Trade in this Garmin Instinct Review for my Garmin Forerunner 945 Review.
These omissions are worth noting
- More unusual sports profiles like triathlon
- Physiological metrics like VO2max
- STRAVA live
- More unusual sensor capabilities eg lack HR when swimming and lacks the ability to connect to power meters
Q: Just how good are the techy ‘bits’ in the Instinct? How accurate are the GPS, the Elevation and the Heart Rate?
The brief answer to those questions are that those areas are all sufficiently accurate for an Outdoors Adventurer who might also be a recreational athlete. If, for example, you consider yourself to be an athlete or extreme adventurer who needs high levels of accuracy then read the following sections and see what you think.
Heart Rate Accuracy – Garmin Instinct Review
The Garmin ELEVATE oHR sensor used in the INSTINCT has been employed on most Garmin watches for a couple of years now but is being replaced with a modified one on new models from 2019 onwards. oHR performance on the wrist is perfect for some and awful for others. It depends on your physiology. Take some comfort that at resting levels and at walking/hiking levels of exertion all should be good for nearly everyone.
But in a more active sport you may or may not be lucky. Here is a 2x20minute turbo bike ride @90%FTP (!), which for the uninitiated is a relatively hard effort but the bike is stationary so there are few vibrations that might lead to bad results. Indeed you can see that the Instinct is good enough here.
Here is my HR bouncing around as I bounce around the bumpy rounds of Surrey on a bike. The ELEVATE sensor on the INSTINCT is not good enough for my purposes but I would suspect that the buyer of an INSTINCT will find this performance perfectly acceptable for most cycling purposes. You will be lucky if you get an oHR track as good as this for a more serious trail ride.
Here I am running not very fast at all on a treadmill and the INSTINCT is perfectly fine despite the odd mini-moment of fun.
I repeated this same run session outside for this Garmin Instinct Review on real roads and got similar results. The INSTINCT is pretty good here but has a few VERY MINOR wobblies. This is certainly a good enough oHR performance for me…unlike the mystery ‘X’ device.
The INSTINCT can’t record any HR whilst swimming and that feature is unlikely to be added. The INSTINCT does not support a caching HR strap.
HR Summary: The INSTINCT can deliver good HR performance but ‘it depends’ on many factors, quite a few of which are out of your control. You can always use a chest strap if you want accuracy.
GPS Accuracy – Garmin Instinct Review
At a high level you will see that most GPS tracks look very similar and here is the INSTINCT (red – hardly visible) matching a WAHOO device to an apparently good level of accuracy.
Looking in more detail you will find discrepancies between tracks as shown in the following image. But GPS is only accurate to about 5m so you would expect this level of performance as each device could be 5m inaccurate in a different direction. However, I’ve used GPS+GALILEO on the INSTINCT so you might expect better results. But the further realities are that GPS/GLONASS/GALILEO are impacted by trees, buildings and several other factors.
These are 3 ‘events’ from a 100km ride. These were my only concerns with what was recorded, ie trivial events in the grand scheme of things. The first image is zoomed in from the larger image above where you can see a glitch in the Instinct’s track. Perhaps not a problem. But then the two subsequent images are when stationary, the first for a coffee stop in Shere and the second waiting for someone to catch up. The GPS+Galileo track is clearly moving about quite a lot. I don’t really have an issue with this for a pause in a cycle ride but it does not bode well for navigating when hiking if the track jumps around this much at slow speeds.
Here I am jogging along part of the Bushy Park parkrun course and the track is followed surprisingly perfectly. There are no GPS obstructions apart from the occasional tree.
As the INSTINCT is more of a rural watch I decided to do a GRID-based urban run…#sigh. Actually it’s a good test to see if corners are cut…which they weren’t…and the INSTINCT is perhaps the better of the three.
Here was a short hike under tree cover with the first image showing an overview of one loop of the walk. The COROS was spot on with the route and the two Garmins were notably awry but still within acceptable bounds. In the open, the COROS was clearly better but the addition of trees soon made the performance of the 3 more similar.
Garmin Instinct Review THE GPS Summary: After finally completing my formal test I found that the Instinct’s GPS performance in that test was mediocre. In easy GPS reception conditions it was good but when buildings or trees were involved the GPS performance slipped notably and the overall score was 65% and a good Garmin on a good day would normally give up to 79%, with other, non-Garmins scoring even higher. So here we are typically talking about positional accuracy often being more than 5m away from where it should be and some times a lot further away. In more day-to-day, ad hoc usage my perception was that the Instinct was generally better than my formal test suggested.
This general level of accuracy is fine for seeing a nice post-hike track of where you have been. However the Garmin Instinct is a navigation device and I certainly noticed that sometimes it didn’t quite recognise that I’d visited Waypoints when a pre-determined course had me set to go to them and when I knew, for sure, I had been to the exact spot. So if you are looking for a precision navigation device then the Instinct is NOT for you. However, it will be ‘broadly alright’ for most people’s casual hiking and adventure needs.
Elevation Accuracy – Garmin Instinct Review
The image below shows the ‘correct’ elevation profile vs that from the Instinct which had 3D-GPS (+GALILEO) enabled and autocalibration of the altimeter also enabled. Instinct auto-calibrates when it gets a GPS fix at the start of your activity. As you can see, the Instinct seems to track the actual elevation profile pretty well but the Instinct recorded ascent=508m (correct=727m, Wahoo=737m) vs descent=478m (correct=600m, Wahoo=702m) – which is not as good as it looks on the chart.
If you are looking for critical elevation accuracy then I suspect you might need a higher-end device and/or undertake some further research. See Garmin Fenix 5X Plus or Suunto 9 BARO.
The unusual bits of functionality on the Instinct number one item which is probably best summed up as “it has a funny little screen-in-screen thing going on”. Take a look at the image to the right.
The little screen does seem to give you a useful highlight of where you are in the menu system or, perhaps, a focus on a key event like the compass heading or GPS status. However, I’m not convinced that it offers something that another data field could not do and it does seem to waste a bit of screen real estate on what is already a small screen. It can be configured but I’d rather just have a normal screen.
Garmin Instinct Specifications
There are lots more things I haven’t covered here in the review – so I’ve added a link below to some of the more voluminous stuff that not everyone is interested in. Garmin has so many features that are standard across many models. For example, the Instinct is a complete activity tracker giving you steps, sleep, 24×7 HR and abnormal HR alerts. Even mentioning those areas, Garmin adds further elements of functionality behind those headlines.
Naturally, it’s also smart enough to take the usual notifications from your smartphone
One particular thing worth pointing out is the ability to get decent sounds and vibrations from alerts and key presses.
Garmin INSTINCT has a readable, monochrome display at 128 x 128 pixels. It’s a lightweight case at 53g measuring 45 x 45 x 15.3 mm and is good for waterproofing to 10ATM/100M. Battery modes are from 16 hours to 14 days – You could probably get 3-4 days of usage out of it using the right modes but if you’re going away for a week then take a charger.
If you want to know more about the Garmin Instinct Specifications and how they compare to those of the high-end Fenix models then try this:
Garmin Instinct Review Summary & Opinions
I don’t know Garmin’s sales figures for the Instinct but it will be a surprising success for them.
The INSTINCT somewhat fills a gap in the market and at a nice price. I suspect that the gadget market for hiking is modest in size but will grow as products like this target an increasingly sophisticated part of the market buoyed by lots of youngsters keen to gain outdoors’ experiences without straying too far from their smartphone.
I suspect the reasons why you’ll like it are the reasons why others will too. It’s a light and well-made device, apparently to Military standards of durability. I’ve thrown mine down the stairs a few times and it still works fine. I don’t especially like the looks of the Instinct and prefer something more refined like a higher-end Suunto but for those of you who like the rugged Casio-esque look then you will love the INSTINCT. If it had a slightly bigger screen with a slightly better resolution I’d probably like it more. But that one innovation might probably then adversely impact on the very good battery life.
And that’s one of the key aspects of the Instinct. It’s got enough juice in the tank to keep you going for a couple of days if you sensibly manage your GPS-time.
The Instinct does not support wither Garmin PAY or Garmin’s CIQ apps. I suspect the former is a result of the hardware and the latter exclusion to stop you straying too far from Garmin’s own ecosystem.
The Solar version is not worth the extra money unless you have a specific need for slightly more accurate HR and, of course, a longer battery life.
The Garmin Instinct reviewed here also lacks onboard maps. But then so does most of the competition and effectively ALL of the direct competition at this price. The mapping intelligence in the Explore & Connect apps coupled with the outdoors sensors on the device is a winning combination. Whilst I’m not a frequent hiker, I can see the Instinct hitting the spot by providing a complete hiking/adventure solution for most people. You can use it as a smart, sports watch too with many of Garmin great sporting & connected smart features throughout the Connect ecosystem but don’t expect it to do high-end and fancy sporty stuff like supporting power meters for a triathlon.
HIGHLIGHT: The best spec at this price.
Garmin Instinct Discounts, Price & Availability
UK prices should now be below £200 and US prices below $200 and about Eur230 in the Eu.
Typically the retail price for the SOLAR version is about $200 more than the current prices of the non-Solar version (links to Solar Version here)
The INSTINCT is widely available at the price points shown
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18 thoughts on “Garmin Instinct Review ☀️Solar Update 2020”
Hi, I have an option of buying the Garmin instinct or Garmin vivioactive music. of these two devices which do you recommend? A key requirement for me is battery life id like to have more than a week between charges.
the instinct has better headline battery life for sure.
if you use the VA3M’s music it will FURTHER kill the battery life pretty sharpish
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I got the instinct and am very happy.
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I’m a bit unsure which Garmin device is better for me, Instinct or vivoactive 3….Generally, i tun in the city till max. half marathon, doing intervals/speed workouts, strength training, trail running till max half marathon with max 800 elevation so nothing very extreme and i don’t plan in the close future to go further because i simply don’t have time for training more and longer……And I have to mention that as a girl I’m afraid a bit from the instinct cuz maybe it is a bit bulky…but maybe it is just my impression from the photos…also in the vivoactive intervals are not include as a training? can i create intervals in the app and download it on the watch ? That should solve the problem i guess if intervals are not pre-loaded on the watch…
thanks a lot for helping 🙂
look at the Polar IGNITE https://geni.us/PolarIgnite
look at the vivoactive 3 http://geni.us/Garminvivoactive3
Instinct IS bulky. it’s more of an adventure watch than a sports watch
Thanks for the recommandation 🙂 I digged deeper in your reviews (which are amazing by the way so congrats on them!) and I really don’t know which watch is a better choice for the useage i described above, vivoactive 3 or polar vantage m? they are both amazing and kinda’ same pricetag….
sorry for disturbing and thanks if you have time to give me an advice on this 🙂
you can do intervals with both. I suspect that both have the functoinality you want. the polar is a bit more sporty (I’d go for that and indeed am probably racing with the vantage M this weekend). I don’t like the looks of the vivoactive and am not keen on the lack of buttons
I’m not sure why you insist on using GPS +Galileo, when the European Unions Galileo Satellite system is not really fully operational, has had major outage issues and has also booted the UK out of benefitting from the system post brexit.
As mentioned in Ray’ S reviews, Garmin have really spent most of their time and energy developing the GPS+Glonass option. I would use those setting for best accuracy,
unless you like handicapping the devices to push Stryd as far superior of course ?
thank you for the suggestion. I prefer to rely on the results of my own extensive tests: https://the5krunner.com/2016/11/05/test-route-for-gps-devices/ . i have no relationship with garmin whatsoever so i say it how i see it. you can see in those results for yourself if GLONASS is really better…or Galileo or, as I most usually prefer, GPS by itself
from time to time i look at ray’s results for non-garmin devices. you will see in this image from the suunto 7 review that the Garmin performance is not stellar https://media.dcrainmaker.com/images/2020/02/image_thumb-51.png , maybe he was using galileo..IDK. but you are right in saying he prefers to usegps+glonass, so probably he was using that.
Have you actually said what I wrote about its GPS accuracy? It’s not as good as a good garmin on a good day….what do you want me to say? It’s the best GPS accuracy from any Garmin watch…ever?
I would have used the Instinct with STRYD but it doesn’t support it (no CIQ). STRYD gives speed and distance (and power) but not location. I’m not so sure how STRYD will help a hiker navigate with the Instinct.
you say the galileo system is not fully operational, yet that system has redundancy built into it and there was a full suite of operational satellites when I last looked. maybe it’s different today, IDK.
good point about brexit…but you’re talking about the future which is inherently unpredictable. let’s see what happens there, when i last looked at uk participation there were moves to maintain it post brexit.
Stryd, yes you are right almost everyone who uses it that cares about accuracy will say it is the most accurate for speed+distance when running
Can i use the garmin coach with the instinct.Thank you for now
i just purchased this watch and i like running (on roads and trails) with it and i just simply like live with it. but i have a major problem. the altimeter is just not working how it should…it gives me regularly more than 200m elevation gain on a flat running course…and yes, the altimeter was calibrated right before the run and there were no significant weather changes. as i saw on the internet it is a very common issue with the instinct. most people say that u have to keep away from the sensor any kind of dirt or sweat so basically, u cannot use the optical HR if u want a correct elevation cuz u have to wear the watch on a long sleeve on your wrist.
since there aren’t many reviews about this watch from a runner’s perspective, i would like to ask what is your experience with the altimeter? i assume that u sometimes use the watch without a connected chest strap…sweaty runs (hikes, bike rides) mess up the elevation at u? i’m trying to decide if i should request a new unit cuz this elevation problem or this is so common that i should just ask back the money and move on…thanks!
sounds like you have a problem
i use a chest strap but that is for accuracy.
the instinct has a barometric altimeter, iirc it will also periodically check altitude with a 3d-gps fix. (its complicated)
1. if your GPS track is crazy that could be indicative that the periodic GPS fix is also a problem.
2. more likely it could be something as simple as the small hole for the altimeter is blocked eg with dirt or sweat.
bottom line: it should not be as inaccurate as you report. send it back if you are not happy.
Thanks a lot, then I will give another shot for this watch. I forgot to mention that this problem appeared on the first 3 runs out of the box so the sensor shouldn’t be dirty…Anyway, I will try to get a new unit, maybe that will work better.
About the sweat, yes, most people say that sweat can cause the problem but I don’t really now how to avoid it when running :/ We will see. Thanks again!
one last thing. the latest firmware has an elevation update:
Changes made from version 11.00 to 11.76:
Fixed InReach display verification.
Fixed issue where Recovery HR was displayed when there was no heart rate source.
Fixed rare issue where elevation would jump after starting an activity.
Improved the accuracy and reliability of elevation data during activities.
Hi, thanks for the review.
Do you recommend the instinct solar for motor off-road sports like dirt bike?
I don’t dirt bike.
in what sense do you mean? durability?
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