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NPE Runn Review

Here is a summary review of NPE Runn – one of the decade’s best running accessories.

TL;DR – NPE Runn accurately tracks the belt speed of even the oldest of treadmills and broadcasts pace, cadence and incline to any modern sports app or watch like your Zwift app or your Garmin Epix Pro or the latest, greatest Apple Watch Ultra.

That’s all you need to know, so grab an extra 10% discount directly from NPE Runn using the code THE5KRUNNER. If you want to read the detailed NPE Runn review, scroll down and enjoy!

Last updated 26 Oct 2024

 

NPE Runn Review
Runn by North Pole Engineering (NPE)

This is a fairly long review, so here’s a summary and link to an NPE Runn discount code if you decide to get one.

Summary
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  • Apparent Accuracy - 95%
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  • Build Quality & Design - 90%
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  • Features, Including App - 85%
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  • Openness & Compatability - 95%
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Summary

NPE’s Runn is a well-designed, consumer-grade, speed and running cadence sensor for treadmills, it’s more accurate than the pace currently reported by your treadmill.

Whilst NPE Runn will never be able to control the resistance on your treadmill, you’ll need an expensive smart treadmill for that, it does the job that the majority of indoor runners will need. It gives you accurate speed, cadence, and incline information throughout your run and it does that in a way that your running watch or app can also perfectly record the stats. For numbers-focused runners, it completes the picture by completing your data history.

Runn works by tracking the progress of white strips fastened to your treadmill below and by using an accelerometer to recognise foot impacts. Runn only has two major drawbacks firstly the white strips eventually come off (use snow paint!) and secondly, the cadence info is not super accurate but most of us can live with that.

Pace accuracy: The review covers pace accuracy further below and this is a surprisingly complex subject. To simplify – no treadmill shows 100% accurate running pace as they never correctly account for the acceleration of the belt when both your feet are in the air. NPE does NOT correct that error but pretty much correctly accounts for every other source of error.

There is no direct alternative to Runn. Other than a $3000 smart treadmill the best workaround is to go for a Stryd foot pod but even then Stryd only takes incline into account if you use its smartphone app – Runn recognises incline automatically.

Furthermore, Runn is a nifty piece of hardware that quickly and easily slots into how your apps and sports devices currently work FOR YOU…there is no need for yet another new app from yet another new company.

Price-wise, Runn sits in the Goldilocks zone. For sure, there are cheaper footpods and there are more expensive footpods too. Each competing solution has its merits but the NPE Runn is a strong solution for runners who use treadmills a lot or who want accuracy. It’s also a cost-effective option to breathe new life into an old treadmill.

You can get Runn in the USA for $89.99, all you need to do is add the 10% coupon code THE5KRUNNER for a 10% discount at checkout, as shown below.   thank you

Pros

  • Price – NPE could easily have charged more for Runn
  • Straightforward setup and installation – it is a sensor that just works
  • Broadcasts an accurate belt speed measurement at a level that is mostly suitable for semi-serious usage
  • Should work with all other standards-based sports equipment using ANT+/BLE/FE-C/FTMS
  • More accurate than your treadmill’s reported speed
  • Calibration will increase consistency with other devices

Cons

  • The cradle is for home treadmill usage, less useful in commercial environments
  • Treadmill stickers won’t last indefinitely
  • Few other apps/hardware YET exist to make use of the grade/incline info
  • Cadence is not always accurate

Skip ahead to the section that most interests you.

NPE Runn – What Is It?

A running treadmill sensor converts a treadmill’s belt movements into speed/pace and cadence, then blasts them out as both ANT+ and BLE signals along with the incline/grade.

At its most superficial level, this means that your Garmin and/or Zwift Run can display and record those signals from even the oldest treadmills.

NPE Runn – Who Will Buy This

The two most obvious classes of runners who will buy NPE Runn will be

  • Zwift Run users
  • Treadmill users who want speed/pace recording to the sports watch

Here’s a caveat aimed at sceptical runners in warmer climates: imagine fellow runners living in Canada or Sweden and the outdoor temperatures they must embrace for significant parts of the winter months. Many of them already have or use treadmills because of the weather. Treadmills are more widespread and important than you might imagine.

There are also two other classes of runners who will be interested in NPE Runn…gyms and accuracy hunters.

Professional GYMs – NPE Runn Review

SMART treadmills are expensive, and many gyms already have significantly invested in older treadmills. You would have thought that something like NPE’s RUNN is an easy route to transforming these legacy treadmills into smart treadmills. Unfortunately, I don’t think the product is ready for public, high-traffic environments.

  • The cradle is permanently affixed to the treadmill and is a trip hazard in a health and safety-conscious world.
  • The Runn could be quite easily stolen from its cradle.
  • Even if permanently welded to a treadmill, it is the sort of product in a location that could be easily broken by a careless runner who is perhaps not so concerned about someone else’s property as they might be with their own.
  • The treadmills would need permanent detection markers on their belts

Of course, problems are just solutions waiting to happen and, in no particular order, our solutions might involve signing a Health & Safety waiver, paying a deposit and affixing a piece of velcro 😉

Although that thick piece of velcro might put the Runn too far away from some treadmill belts. Hmmm.

NPE Runn ReviewRunners seeking accuracy – NPE Runn Review

There is a whole book that could be written about treadmill accuracy, and I’ll cover some aspects of that later. Still, everyone reading this NPE Runn review will likely already believe that our treadmills and the treadmills at the gym report the wrong speed. We probably occasionally think, “If only the gym would get the engineer round to calibrate it. Grrrr.

Well, now you can do it yourself…easily.

  • NPE’s Runn reports the belt speed/pace; you can easily calibrate it in about a minute.
  • NPE also broadcasts grade/incline, which could add further meaning to the reported pace/speed (grade-adjusted pace).

In a hot gym and on a cheap, bouncy treadmill, the reported treadmill speed nearly always underestimates the speed compared to the HR effort my body is experiencing. I am told that a further 0.5% incline above flat is required to mimic air resistance. Yet when I leave the gym, that same laboured heart rate could translate to a pace per km that’s 20 seconds better than it was on the treadmill. Maybe I should buy a fan? Or relish the sweat?…or calibrate the treadmill.

Multi-Treadmill Users

You might have a treadmill at home or use various treadmills at your gym during the lunch break. In a practical sense, it might be tricky for you to move your Runn (cradle) from one treadmill to the other until the cradle is designed differently, assuming that the treadmill owner is happy with you painting white marks onto their treadmill in the first place.

Besides the portability of the cradle and white markings, there is no significant issue with calibrating multiple treadmills other than that the Runn cannot store different calibration factors for several treadmills.

NPE Runn Review – In More Detail

So let’s move on now to discuss Runn in more detail and start with what you get in the box.

NPE Runn Review – In The Box

Yep, that’s it. The Runn enters the cradle, and the double-sided sticky tape fastens it to the treadmill. The stickers go on the treadmill belt, and the micro USB cable periodically charges the Runn. #Simple.

NPE Runn – Getting Started Basics

The installation is a little more finessed than this, but in principle, this is what you do, and it’s FAIRLY EASY.

  • Stick the cradle on the rear frame of your treadmill…not underneath!…rather, at the back.
  • Stick some bits of white tape on the belt under the Runn, more than 12″ apart.
  • ( Turn on ANT+. Optional )
  • Pair it.
  • ( Calibrate it. Optional as Runn is supplied factory-calibrated)
  • Run.

Here are seven indicative images of what you must do as part of the straightforward installation process. The only thing I’ve not mentioned, shown in the images, is that Runn needs to be adjusted to just over 6mm/0.25″ above the belt.

The double-sided tape that sticks the bracket to your treadmill is pretty strong stuff, and the bracket will take a BIG whack before coming off, but the white belt stickers will have a relatively limited life. I would estimate that the belt stickers will stay attached for 10s of KM rather than 100s. When I first read about the white stickers, it seemed they were fairly poor at adhering to the belt. However, by the time I got my Runn, I reckon NPE had taken that criticism on board and improved the stickers’ quality. But in the long term, things just aren’t going to stick onto a dirty, sweaty and contoured moving surface…aka a treadmill belt.

So you will probably fall back to using Tippex/WhiteOut/Snow Paint on your home treadmill, although a better solution might be to apply floor paint to a belt thoroughly cleaned with alcohol. Here is a template you can use for that.

The white stickers (or snow paint) are important. The time taken for EACH SINGLE sticker to pass the 3-inches from the start to the end of the Runn is what is used to determine speed/pace. So the more stickers you have, the more frequently the speed/pace is updated ie THE MORE ACCURATE IT WILL BE

Pairing To Zwift

Zwift users know what to do here. Pair and Go…super simple, but don’t calibrate Runn in Zwift.

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Pairing To Sports Watches

To enable/disable ANT+ broadcasting, double-tap the white button. You pair Runn as a footpod with your Garmin, Coros, or other ANT+ watches.

If you have Runn paired to Zwift, there are no spare BLE channels, and a BLE sports watch, like Polar or Suunto, will be unable to find the Runn device to pair to it. Conversely, if your Polar is paired with Runn, then Zwift won’t find Runn.

 

Transmitting, Displaying & Recording Treadmill INCLINE Data

Here is a link to more information on displaying and recording INCLINE data. Garmin users may already know how to download and install a CIQ data field. You will see the incline on your watch and the recorded data in Garmin Connect.

NPE Runn Now Transmits & Records Incline |

Advanced Usage – Runn Factory Reset

Factory Reset: Press and hold the rear, white button to return to factory settings. The factory-calibrated level of accuracy is for 5mph/0 degrees incline

This is an important point. The factory calibration is correct. Or, at least, you should assume it is. You can do that if you want to calibrate Runn to be wrong, i.e., to match your treadmill’s displayed speed. I wouldn’t do that.

Here’s how…

Advanced Usage – Speed Matching Calibration

DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY YOU MIGHT NEED TO.

If, for the sake of consistency, you want all your TREADMILL, ZWIFT & GARMIN speed numbers to match, then perform a calibration of the NPE Runn before calibrating Zwift, like this…

  • Complete the full physical installation and set the treadmill speed to 5mph (8.0465km/h) with a zero incline. There is NO NEED to run on the treadmill while this is happening.
  • Double-tap the rear white button to turn on the right LED
  • Single tap the rear white button, and you will see alternating left and right LEDs as the white strip passes Runn
  • Press and hold the rear white button for 6 seconds. The LEDs will alternate from left to right when calibration is active.
  • Runn now automatically calibrates (the procedure doesn’t say that you need to run here, but I would have thought you should)
  • LEDs will now turn off (If Runn is on mains power, this is not the case)
  • Use Zwift/Garmin’s display to show that a correct 5 mph speed (8.0465km/h) is being broadcast by Runn. If it’s different, then restart.
  • Runn is now calibrated.
  • Now calibrate Runn WITHIN ZWIFT. The Zwift app guides this calibration, and you can calibrate at three speeds relative to your running level.

Instead, relying on the Runn’s calibrated speed should mean that your watch and Zwift agree BUT your treadmill’s displayed pace may be different – that’s fine. That’s what you want, in my opinion.

NPE Runn Specifications & Settings

  • Dimensions – 92 mm x 38 mm (3.6″ x 1.5″)
  • Strip Dimensions: 0.25” x 0.75”
  • Supports Bluetooth Smart & ANT+, more specifically:
    • ANT+  supports the Stride Based Speed and Distance Monitor ANT+ Profile and the FE-C profile, which also incorporates incline
    • Bluetooth supports Running Speed and Cadence, plus FTMS support
  • Bluetooth is ‘always’ on. There is no on/off button
  • Supported Incline Range – all physical treadmill incline/decline angles should work
  • Battery Type – chargeable via micro-USB
  • Battery Life – over 10 hours.
  • Accelerometer: senses cadence

NPE Runn – LED Patterns

The LEDs give you some feedback on the device’s status

  • Left LED – BLE is connected
  • Middle LED – USB power active
  • Right LED – ANT+ is broadcasting
  • White Strip Detection – Left & right LEDs alternate as the strip passes under
  • Calibration – All 3 LEDs perform the reverse sequencing pattern during active calibration.
  • Factory Reset – All 3 LEDs perform the forward sequencing pattern when the button has been held long enough for the reset request to be activated (about 10 seconds). The pattern stays active until the button is released.

NPE Runn – Firmware Updates

From April 2020, firmware updates will be supplied over BLE using the Configurez iOS/Android app. Changes in Firmware v3.0.2 Include:

  • ANT+ cadence and incline enabled without the need to have a BLE connection active
  • Improved strip detection to prevent data dropouts under specific conditions
  • Fixed the BLE interface to allow use with RunSocial
  • Tighter integration with the North Pole Engineering GymTrakr app
  • Zeroing out accumulated data when the BLE connection is deactivated
  • Fixed jump in distance

 

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Alternatives to NPE Runn

NPE Runn Review

There are several alternative ways to get a treadmill or running speed while running indoors. It depends on what end-use you want an alternative for. Treadmill running speed can come from any of these.

  1. IF PRICE IS NO ISSUE AND YOU WANT THE MOST ACCURATE PACE AND/OR RUNNING POWER: Use STRYD – If you come here regularly, you’ll know I like STRYD, but it’s not cheap, although it gives you the benefit of running with the SAME power and speed indoors and outdoors. STRYD will broadcast pace/cadence over ANT+ and BLE, just like the NPE Runn. STRYD currently does not handle INCLINE, except through its app.
  2. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A HIGH-END GARMIN: Use Garmin ‘Virtual Run’ mode – certain higher-end Garmins will broadcast heart rate, speed and cadence to Zwift using BLE thanks to a firmware update in Jan 2020.
  3. COST: Zwift (Milestone) Pod – This is a nice Zwift product, and it’s cheap but sometimes fiddly to pair and keep working. It will not broadcast ANT+ to older Garmins, and only one device can use the BLE channel (i.e. Zwift), so it will never simultaneously support Zwift and your newer Garmin/Polar/app/Suunto.
  4. EXISTING FOOTPODS: Garmin run pod – These only work with ANT+, which means they won’t link directly to Zwift. You’ll need to buy an ANT+ dongle.
  5. EXISTING FOOTPODS: Polar Stride pod – This is BLE only. So, only one device can be paired, i.e. a watch OR Zwift. You could buy another NPE Product called CABLE, which converts a BLE signal into ANT+.

Of those five options, I would only recommend considering options 1 & 2…or NPE’s Runn!

NPE Runn Review

 

Complications, Thoughts & Opinions

  • STRAVA causes complications. You will get duplicates if you use Garmin and Zwift to each send workouts to STRAVA. The widely reported trick is not to save the data when you end the Garmin workout. I would have thought that messes up your Firstbeat physiology metrics. Instead, I would discard the Zwift workout, which would mean that STRAVA would not get a pretty picture of my workout route, and if you were to do that, it might also mess up any Zwift plan you have bought [IDK].  For a triathlete who is also syncing bike data from Zwift, I’m not sure I can think of a catch-all solution here, but for a plain runner, you just have to decide which link you want to cut.
  • I ran with STRYD, and Runn and I both broadcasted their workout stats. I can’t see the point of anyone else owning both of these devices, so just get either STRYD or Runn.
  • Accuracy – If you want to increase Runn’s accuracy (responsiveness) slightly, then more white stickers will increase the sampling rate and the frequency at which any speed change is broadcast. That’s a good thing to do, but it will probably also be a fallback if/when one of the stickers falls off.
  • Manual/Curved Treadmills such as the TRUEFORM RUNNER – Slowtwitch tested Runn on their TRUEFORM and found high accuracy from the RUNN.
  • In June 2021, some high-end Garmin watches can broadcast wrist HR over BLE. Send speed, cadence, and wrist HR to a PC via BLE, and Zwift will update Strava directly and GC.

Treadmill Speed Accuracy

Q: Which speed do I want?

A: I’m not sure, YOU tell me. Here are your choices

  • The displayed speed on the treadmill is the TARGET speed. Factors linked to the motor quality will mean that this IS different from your actual running speed
  • Runn measures belt speed – The impact of the footstrike slows the belt speed (this is measured), and then the motor accelerates the belt at and after de-weighting at the toe-off time (the effect of this on the runner is INCORRECTLY measured). The speeding up when your feet are in the air (Source: STRYD) is recorded by the treadmill, but you don’t experience it as the runner.
  • Actual running speed – this can only be measured by a footpod. My regular readers know what I will say next: “Get a motion capture device,” aka STRYD.
    • Watches that use accelerometers on your wrist can be woefully inaccurate, even the latest, greatest Garmin Fenix 7.
The belt accelerates when you are in the air and can cause 2% errors

To have the treadmill-based speed mimic your outdoor speed is even more complex; for starters, just consider the incline, air resistance and energy return from the surface. ie a positive gradient and a bouncy surface will all make you slower, yet a lack of oncoming wind will make you faster.

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Accuracy Charts: I’ve got some data I might add back in here later, along with some more tests I have planned but at a simple level that is mostly pointless as I’m 99% sure that the Runn accurately reports treadmill belt speed.

If I start to look at Runn alongside STRYD data, perhaps incorporating a variable number of white stickers for Runn and then considering different inclines and other running pods, then it gets quite complicated, quite quickly. Even if I were to do that, I suspect that we shall see some developments in this general market fairly soon which will add even more new features to check out. #Undecided on what to do.

 

Futures – NPE Runn Review

Whilst I think the future of Zwift Running is relatively limited and that it will never catch on in the same way as it has for cycling, it is nevertheless a notable, growing and important market for running equipment suppliers. Even putting Zwift to one side, many of us want to capture our treadmill workouts from work gyms or hotel gyms as well as from a treadmill we might have at home.

Runn fills a gap in the sensor markets by EASILY acquiring treadmill data. But it can be even better, in my opinion, like this.

  • IMHO, the product cradle needs to be rethought for the professional gym market.
  • Incline/Grade is broadcast, but nothing has been done with it (yet!). This is AT LEAST crying out for a CIQ data field showing INCLINE.
  • Incline/Grade – Zwift could also take this data from Runn and perhaps incorporate an alert to remind you to raise/lower your incline setting to match the terrain in Zwift. This has to be a manual mechanism, as there is no way for Zwift/Runn to automatically control the physical incline of your treadmill (unless you have a smart treadmill)
  • Incline/Grade – could be incorporated into a CIQ app to generate a grade-adjusted pace with similar usefulness to power or effort.
  • Incline/Grade – could perhaps be incorporated with other data like your weight and GCT data from your pod or HRM to give a power figure. But I’m not sure this would add anything over and above what you could get from grade-adjusted pace, e.g. power calculated in this manner could not be used on a device outdoors.
  • Incline/Grade – perhaps this could be combined with data from the STRYD sensor to produce a more ‘correct’ power figure that considers grade.
  • Ability to store treadmill calibration profiles. This would help runners who take their RUNNs to more than one treadmill, but it could also help gym owners who might rent them out to gym members by the hour without wanting to leave them permanently attached to a treadmill.

Want to also to broadcast heart rate from your Apple Watch? Then, also get NPE’s heartbeat. Do you want an old ANT+ power meter to broadcast power over BLE to Zwift? Then get NPE Cable.

 

NPE Runn Review
You can get Runn in the USA for $89.99, all you need to do is add the 10% coupon code THE5KRUNNER for a 10% discount at checkout, as shown below.

 

Buy NPE Runn Discount, Price & Availability

Price: $89.99

You can buy Runn directly from NPE in the USA for $89.99; all you need to do is add the 10% coupon code THE5KRUNNER for a discount at checkout.

 

NPE Runn Review – Summing Up

Summary
  • Price - 95%
    95%
  • Apparent Accuracy - 95%
    95%
  • Build Quality & Design - 90%
    90%
  • Features, Including App - 85%
    85%
  • Openness & Compatability - 95%
    95%
92%

Summary

NPE’s Runn is a well-designed, consumer-grade, speed and running cadence sensor for treadmills, it’s more accurate than the pace currently reported by your treadmill.

Whilst NPE Runn will never be able to control the resistance on your treadmill, you’ll need an expensive smart treadmill for that, it does the job that the majority of indoor runners will need. It gives you accurate speed, cadence, and incline information throughout your run and it does that in a way that your running watch or app can also perfectly record the stats. For numbers-focused runners, it completes the picture by completing your data history.

Runn works by tracking the progress of white strips fastened to your treadmill below and by using an accelerometer to recognise foot impacts. Runn only has two major drawbacks firstly the white strips eventually come off (use snow paint!) and secondly, the cadence info is not super accurate but most of us can live with that.

Pace accuracy: The review covers pace accuracy further below and this is a surprisingly complex subject. To simplify – no treadmill shows 100% accurate running pace as they never correctly account for the acceleration of the belt when both your feet are in the air. NPE does NOT correct that error but pretty much correctly accounts for every other source of error.

There is no direct alternative to Runn. Other than a $3000 smart treadmill the best workaround is to go for a Stryd foot pod but even then Stryd only takes incline into account if you use its smartphone app – Runn recognises incline automatically.

Furthermore, Runn is a nifty piece of hardware that quickly and easily slots into how your apps and sports devices currently work FOR YOU…there is no need for yet another new app from yet another new company.

Price-wise, Runn sits in the Goldilocks zone. For sure, there are cheaper footpods and there are more expensive footpods too. Each competing solution has its merits but the NPE Runn is a strong solution for runners who use treadmills a lot or who want accuracy. It’s also a cost-effective option to breathe new life into an old treadmill.

You can get Runn in the USA for $89.99, all you need to do is add the 10% coupon code THE5KRUNNER for a 10% discount at checkout, as shown below.   thank you

Pros

  • Price – NPE could easily have charged more for Runn
  • Straightforward setup and installation – it is a sensor that just works
  • Broadcasts an accurate belt speed measurement at a level that is mostly suitable for semi-serious usage
  • Should work with all other standards-based sports equipment using ANT+/BLE/FE-C/FTMS
  • More accurate than your treadmill’s reported speed
  • Calibration will increase consistency with other devices

Cons

  • The cradle is for home treadmill usage, less useful in commercial environments
  • Treadmill stickers won’t last indefinitely
  • Few other apps/hardware YET exist to make use of the grade/incline info
  • Cadence is not always accurate
NPE Runn Review
You can get Runn in the USA for $89.99. All you need to do is add the 10% coupon code THE5KRUNNER for a 10% discount at checkout, as shown below.

 

 

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15 thoughts on “the NPE Runn Review 2024 Update & Discount | Zwift Treadmill Sensor + Garmin

  1. Also using the Runn, I have a question:

    When you calibrate the Runn manually, it will be in sync with the display of the treadmill and copy the error of the treadmill? I mean, you set the Mill to 5mph and it will do its (wrong) thing. Then you tell the Runn that this is meant to be 5 and not 5.2 mph?

    I use velcro underneath the cradle, it works fine. The cradle is designed to be able to lower the sensor area beneath the cradle zero.

    At last, their support said something about Cadence via ANT+:

    “Hi,

    We are aware of an issue with cadence not reporting via ANT+, and we are working on an update to solve that! In the meantime, there are two workarounds that you can do to get cadence and incline:
    Use Zwift Companion App
    Connect your Runn to an app like Gymtrakr via Bluetooth at the same time as using ANT+ with Zwift or other ANT+ channel

    We will post about the update on our social media pages like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and LinkedIn. We will also send out an e-mail to our Runn subscribers list.”

    1. yes you calibrate Runn IF YOU WANT IT TO BE WRONG. ie if you want it to MATCH THE TREADMILL. I will reiterate that important point in the review as no-one (me included) is clear about this, thank you for bringing that up
      glad to hear the velcro works
      i await the cadence resolution (and thank you for rasing that, i wasn’t aware)

      1. Runn also stated in the comments under Rays review they will sell extra cradles.

        When Im rid of my influenca I just carry around, I will connect the Runn via BT to my Forerunner 945. Via ANT, it looked like this:
        https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/4507192653
        I saw it already while I was running because Cadence in the Zwift display dropped out.

        Beside the Cadence issue (I think they will solve it), its a nice “just works” device. I don’t think the cradle is a problem in gyms, just tape it with velcro and store cradles and devices at the counter. Only a few customers can make use of it (when I look at all the people walking on the mills in our gym) and those will ask. The button could have been a better piece of hardware, it just feels cheap.
        Also, their Support is fast and super friendly.

      2. 144 steps/min…too low. yes i assume you are 180 or so from some of the sections of that run
        cadence comes from an accelerometer, so they just have to get the algo right assuming the electronics are decent.
        yes i agree with the velcro plus store behind the counter for gyms
        thankyou, yes i saw they sell extra cradles.

  2. I have been using a STRYD on my treadmill for a year, and I hate the way it measures (or it doesn’t) speed. I have a pretty good treadmill which I tested using a measuring wheel, and STRYD speed doesn’t make any sense at different speeds (after calibration). I just installed a Runn out of the box without calibration or anything and the speed is perfect! either at 0.5mph or 12mph! I am so impress with this product, or so disappointed with the more expensive STRYD…

    1. I have the same feeling than you Xavier, I’ve been running on my treadmill a months ago with my stryd and the readings I’m getting from it are quite different than outside.

      I know that outside my stryd is well calibrated. I did some tests on a track field I have near home and it reads for each loop between 400 and 401 m.

      But inside is different the feeling on my treadmill are distinct. When I run at a very easy pace (5:45 min/km) outside my heart rate is always in Z1 (130-135ppm) but inside at the same pace returned by stryd my heart rate is quite higher (150-155) and also the sensation I feel on my legs and body are that I’m running at a higher pace.

  3. How does this compare to the data provided by a Garmin Tri band in terms of pace and speed? What would happen if I use both at the same time?

  4. So, if I’m not misunderstood you If I want the more accurate and real speed and pace I should NOT calibrate runn, right?

    Currently, I’m running on my treadmill with my stryd but like Xavier comments I have the feeling that the speed and pace are not correct. I mean, at the exact same power running on the treadmill it’s supposed that I’m running almost 1 minute per kilometer slower.

    I just want to have the same feeling running on my treadmill than outside. If I run at 6 min/km I would like have the same feelings than outside. I’m aware that in the treadmill there are other factors like that you don’t have wind that I’m try to cover with a couple of fans.

    PD. sorry for my English

    1. assuming you have the correct gradient: wind will be a very small factor in terms of air resistance HOWERVER the temperature may be more of a factor a hotter temperature might mean your body has to work harder at a given speed.

      try pacing your effort by heart rate and see what happens

      if stryd and runn agree then it is highly likely they are correct.

      1. When I was referring to wind I would say hot. Of course running on inside will generate more body temperature.

        Right now, with my stryd at the same power inside I’m having about 10-15 ppm more than outside. That is the reason that I just wondering if my stryd is not properly accurate for the treadmill (outside I test it on a track and the distance is perfect)

        So to sum up, to have the REAL speed and pace I should not recalibrate the runn right?

      2. NPE Runn – Getting Started Basics

        The actual installation is a little more finessed than this but in principle, this is what you do and it’s FAIRLY EASY

        Stick the cradle on the rear frame of your treadmill…not underneath!…rather, at the back.
        Stick some bits of white tape on the belt under the Runn, >12″ apart. The more the merrier
        ( Turn on ANT+. Optional )
        Pair it.
        ( Calibrate it. Optional as Runn is supplied factory-calibrated)
        Run.

  5. Without entering the belt length of my treadmill, the Runn sensor cannot accurately report speed. It is set on a factory treadmill which may have a different belt lenght than mine. So in reality there is no way to calibrate the Runn sensor.

  6. Hi, I do 90% of my runs on treadmill. I use STRYD for power and speed accuracy. Speed accuracy indoors will vary from treadmill model. I have noticed that the more cushioned treadmills give less accurate readings compared to STRYD speed readings. Like you said, perceived effort and heart rate do not match when comparing outside paces with indoor running. What I did is calibrate manually my STRYD Foot Pod 4% faster (That’s around 14 seconds faster than factory calibration) and it then matches pretty close perceived effort and heart rate compared to outside pace.
    Now, I started using NPE Runn and found that factory calibration has a bigger gap between STRYD factory calibration. In my case the speed is around 20 seconds faster than STRYD factory calibration. So which is more accurate NPE Runn or STRYD? Probably NPE Runn as the new approach of measuring belt speed sounds more and solid and logic.

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