Suunto 7 Review | Best for Wear OS now with Spotify
Suunto 7 Review – Best Smartwatch For Wear OS
Here is a summary of my time with the Suunto 7 and a discussion of the more interesting details that cover my review experiences with the Suunto 7.
Simply summarised “The Suunto 7 is by far the best smart, sports watch for Google’s Wear OS” and from a personal perspective, I’d much rather have a Suunto 7 than an Apple Watch.
or…
Simply summarised, “The Suunto 7 is over-priced with an under-featured, proprietary Wear OS app” and from a keen athletic perspective, I would personally choose a different watch as I do LOTS of sports.
Update: 10 Jan 2021 LAUNCH ISSUES 100% FIXED
Suunto 7 Review Summary
Price - 80%
80%
Apparent Accuracy - 85%
85%
Build Quality & Design - 98%
98%
Features, Including App - 90%
90%
Openness & Compatability - 95%
95%
90%
Suunto 7 Review Summary
Suunto 7 is a NEW DIRECTION for the company. Wear OS is new to both Suunto and much of its traditional customer base.
Wear OS gives Suunto inbuilt smartcapabilities and the strategic ‘app store’ they have missed for the last few years. With one fell swoop the Suunto 7 ‘easily’ has contactless payments, Google Assistant, Spotify Music, Google Maps, Google Fit, activity tracking and a plethora of other apps
In my opinion, this is a good SMART watch from Suunto with BAGS of potential of the sports side of things. The Suunto 7 exudes quality & speed compared to many competitor Wear OS sports watches which exude mediocrity.
It looks great. The screen looks great and the watch feels great as you use it throughout the day.
I’ve used the watch for 50+ hours of running, pool swimming, cycling, indoor cycling, weights and treadmill running. Is the Suunto 7 perfect? A: No, definitely not.The in-sport experience is limited compared to dedicated pro-sports watches, yet Suunto’s ambitiously-scoped sports app is streets ahead of most other sports apps on Wear OS. Nevertheless, there are improvements needed to keep everyone happy.
The price is steep but you might prefer to wear and use a Suunto 7 for 24×7 usage than either an Apple Watch, Garmin Venu or Casio WSD-F30. Q:Why so?A: Aesthetics and smarts.
Pros
Spotify & Google Play Music (Wear OS), plus music rips
Onboard, cached Mapping plus other 3rd party mapping options
App Store (Google Play) and the ability to install MANY apps
NFC Payments (Visa, Mastercard, Amex Wear OS via the superior GPAY/Google PAY)
Quality construction with a GREAT, LARGE touchscreen and decent buttons
A good Suunto Wear OS app which supports most sports, with many more sporty apps in the Wear OS app store.
Optional ‘always on’ screen for exercising
Cons
For map routing you will need to use one of the many 3rd party solutions like Google Maps (March 2020)
Battery life is good for a Wear OS watch and when compared to the Apple Watch or almost all other SMART watches. Butthe battery is not up to the same level as a ‘pro’ sports watch whose screens are inferior.
Suunto 7 is a larger format watch, perhaps not suitable for the skinny-wristed amongst you.
3rd party apps must be used to support sports sensors such as STRYD by using Ghost Racer/SportyGo
oHR and GPS accuracy is comparable to competitors ie meh-to-good.
Serious triathletes and pro-adventurers are best advised to choose a sport-specific watch…you already knew that.
The Suunto 7 is a smart sports/outdoors watch for Wear OS, simple as that. As such it is mostly competing with other SMART watches like the Apple Watch, Casio WSD-F30 and the Samsung Galaxy Watch Active.
It’s just not correct to compare the Suunto 7 to other high-end Suunto watches. They are targetting different markets so a different feature set is appropriate for the target market. And it’s not right to compare the Suunto 7 to competitive high-end sports watches, the Suunto 7 is clearly targeting SMARTs because of the reliance on the Wear OS platform.
However, it is perfectly valid to compare the abilities of Google’s Wear OS platform to Apple’s Watch OS platform but that is mostly beyond Suunto’s control. And it’s perfectly valid to compare Suunto’s Wear OS app to other sports and outdoors apps, both in terms of the app itself and how it integrates with the wider Wear OS environment (Google Fit)
Finally, of course, absolute comparisons like PRICE are perfectly valid too.
So where any ‘controversy’ does exist, it’s because people are not making valid or fair comparisons…at least that’s my opinion of their opinions. You can make your own mind up.
Suunto 7 Review – What is it in a bit more detail?
Suunto 7 a very well-made, good-looking, large-format smartwatch. It feels like the physical watch should be able to handle the rigours of the outdoors and, perhaps more importantly, it has a comprehensive set of sensors that enable the software to do awesome things. So it has
GPS-Galileo satellite capabilities (Qualcomm) which give positional and directional information (compass)
Optical Heart Rate Monitor (Pixart)
Barometric altimeter that supports further refinement by GPS altimetry (FusedAlti)
An accelerometer that detects movement and, for example, refines speed as determined by GPS
Microphone – for voice access to smart functionality
NFC/Payments chip for tap and pay
WiFi chip to, for example, talk to your home speakers
Bluetooth 4 to pair to sensors (with caveats) like speakers
And the battery, buttons and touchscreen make it all work
The software operating system it runs is Google’s Wear OS, which can work on an iPhone but it’s really designed to aid a better integration with Android smartphones. Many, but not all, of your favourite Android apps, will also have a cut-down version or partner version that works on Wear OS watches – thus Suunto has made an app for your smartphone anda Wear OS app for the Suunto 7. That’s just one app on the watch, but you NEVER haveto use it if you don’t want to.
Wear OS on your Suunto 7 will run apps that can do wonderful stuff like KOMOOT, Google Maps, Strava and MUCH more. And it also runs the Suunto Wear OS app. More on that in a minute.
Apart from apps, Wear OS supports thousands of watch faces, including a special heatmap watch face from Suunto, and special screens called ’tiles’ which are always on and can be swiped over the watch face from time to time.
Then we come specifically to the Suunto Wear OS app. As Wear OS apps go, it’s awesome in the intended scope. Its mistake, perhaps, is to look a little too much like the exact same interface style used on Suunto’s other high-end watches. As it looks the same, people seem to expectit to have the exact same functionality as these other watches. It doesn’t. But compared to other, Wear OS sports apps it DOES already have good functionality…admittedly, perhaps not the pro-athletic levels of functionality found on sports watches.
Suunto 7 Review – What Is The Target Market
The Target Market Is An: Active person looking for a smartwatch
First and foremost, I’d say it’s for people who use an Android smartphone and who want a decent-looking, well-integrated companion watch. They will want to buy that watch also for its smart functionality, perhaps the ability to play music, make contactless payments and/or for Google Assistant.
Maybe the target buyer is interested in a bit of activity tracking. Maybe.
Probably the target buyer will be interested in sports usage but not to the level of a serious athlete or multi-day adventurer.
So what does that sound like? Yep. To me, it sounds like an alternative to an Apple Watch.NOT an alternative to a Suunto 9 or Garmin Fenix 6 Pro Solar or even to a top-end Garmin Forerunner running watch. Suunto devotees may scoff, and rightly so, this is not a watch for them. But hey, the Apple Watch is the best-selling wearable…EVER. There REALLY is a HUGE market for this sort of thing. Honest!!
OK, there’s the price too. But I’ll gloss over that for a while.
Suunto 7 Review – More on how it all works
This is nota review of Wear OS.
I like Wear OS. The Suunto 7’s buttons and touchscreen are a great interface to Wear OS.
The Suunto 7 works well.
Out of all the Wear OS watches I’ve used, Suunto 7 offers one of the very best usability experiences. It has the most powerful processor and there are no lags worth noting, except when an app is installing over WiFi (?!)
The Suunto HEATMAP watch face is great. You can display a zoomed-in or zoomed-out heatmap centred on your current location for any sport or class of sports. It’s not THAT useful, but it is clever and looks nice!
Furthermore, you can configure two complications on it, I chose to add a shortcut there to GPAY and another to show the battery status. Instead, you could probably have a running total of your steps or similar.
If I then swipe to my chosen tiles I have the following
My current week of training 9 (a Suunto tile)
My current month of training (a Suunto tile)
Google Fit shows my active minutes and heart points
Weather forecast
You can also see your 24×7 HR if you are into that sort of thing. It looks like it only gives infrequent readings (15 minutes). Which is not great.
then there are timers, calendars, other heart graphs and news headlines to choose from. But no compass 🙁 you’ll need an app for that.
Other than APPS, the remaining areas of the Suunto 7 to consider are CONTACTLESS PAYMENTS, MUSIC, Google Assistant, the battery that powers it all and the accuracy to which it is all delivered. Let’s look at those…
Contactless Payments
I’ve set up a couple of my credit cards on the Suunto 7. I’ve also put a shortcut to GPAY on the watch face which makes the payment really simple.
The only caveats are
GPAY requires you to have a passcode set for the Suunto 7. If you take the watch off you have to re-enter the passcode. There is probably also a time delay after which you have to re-enter the passcode but I’ve not encountered that and, if it exists, it must be several hours. Hence payments are VERY, VERY easy.
Google PAY / GPAY – you can pretty much add ANY Amex, Visa or Mastercard to the Suunto 7 (supported services). This is similar to Apple PAY but Garmin PAY is restrictive in its support for payment sources. On the downside, GPAY only works in these countries.
Paypal is not supported – it’s only supported in the Google PLAY Store.
How to Guide:use Garmin PAY with most banks – here
FWIW: For Garmin PAY I had to apply for a special credit card to get any form of payment method working for me in the UK, which is fine, but Google PAY took all 5 cards that I currently own.
Summary: Great. Far more flexible than Garmin and similar to Apple. At least it was for me…
Music
You can use Spotify to locally cache music and playback at your leisure. You can also have rips/downloads. It seems to try to stream over WiFi too.
I had no pairing or playback issues with my Jabra Elite 65t earbuds but I did have some issues when casting to specific speakers in my ‘smart home’.
Summary: Fine for standalone playback to earbuds and controlling your phone’s audio.
Google Assistant
I’m a partial fan of Google Assistant and its integration with: my smart home; a fairly smart car; and its ability to answer questions without getting angry even when I shout at it. I also have an iPhone XR and Google Assistant is better than Siri.
The Suunto 7 has a microphone and screen as an interface to Google Assistant but it has no speaker and hence should know if you have earbuds paired or if there are Google Home speakers available over WiFi (Mesh).
I’m not convinced that the Suunto 7 really tries to use my WiFi as often as it might, it seems to very much prefer to communicate with my Android smartphone. So, by my command, it does initiate music on the smartphone and playback on my earbuds and it also will show a pretty picture of BAKU on the Suunto 7 when I ask “What’s the capital of Azerbaijan?”.
As I have numerous connection points/microphones in my house I’ve not gotten to the bottom of what the Suunto 7 is/is not doing here. And I don’t propose to spend any time figuring out why it only ‘kinda works’.
Summary: Needs fine-tuning for a Smart Home but seems fine as a companion to your android smartphone.
Battery – How long it works for
Suunto claims 12 hours of GPS usage and 20 hours of non-GPS sports usage, which is good for this type of watch. However, in my experience, I reckon you will get 9-10 hours of GPS usage from a full charge depending on the exact sports usage. This will be further reduced if you have the screen set to ‘ALWAYS ON’ and the screen brightness cranked to the max. Start playing music and battery life will be lower still – that’s true of all smartwatches.
From a practical viewpoint, if you look at your 4-5 hour marathon you also have to account for depleting the battery the night before and on the journey to and from the race. Will you make it through that race? Probably. However, if you wake up and put on the watch fully charged all will be good. I tried this ‘test’ as follows
8 am. wake up and turn the fully charged Suunto 7 on
9 am to 1 pm bike ride with GPS enabled, stopping indoors (poor GPS in a coffee shop) for 30 minutes
1 pm to 2 pm outdoor run, no music
At this point, the watch read just under 50%. I think it was 48% or 46% (ie 10% depletion per hour)
After that and using normal ‘watch’ mode, the reading fell to 21% by 11 pm.
9 am: wake up and the battery-saver watch face was showing
So my point to fitness freaks is that the S7’s battery is sufficient for your marathon. A 4-hour marathon with music might also be possible.
Would the battery life be sufficient to give you a day’s navigation over the hills whilst linked to your smartphone and listening to music?…no.
Summary: The Suunto 7 has awesome battery life for a Wear OS watchand also good when compared to the Apple Watch. Of course, YOU will almost certainly want better battery life. Good luck with finding it in a directly comparable product!
Activity Tracking on the Suunto Wear OS APP
The Suunto 7 tracks your activities fairly well. Activities mean ‘your non-sporty exertions’…like climbing the stairs or walking 500 miles just to be with someone. it also covers non-exertions like sleep tracking.
Well, when I say it tracks activities fairly well and also covers sleep, what I mean is that Google Fit works for the former and you will need an app like Sleep as Android for the latter. You could probably also use another stair-climbing, step tracking app to capture activity too. But the bottom line is that activity and non-activity (sleep) is piped into the Google Fit ‘service’, which is great. What’s not great, for some people, is that the Suunto android app does not retrieve that data.
I can’t believe that this won’t be added QUICKLY by Suunto. It wouldn’t bother me as an owner of the watch but I’m positive this omission will REALLY hack some people off. After all, Suunto has specifically said that the Suunto 7 targets an “Active person looking for a smartwatch“. Presumably, an active person wants to track activity?
Me? I’m just bothered about the smart stuff and sporty stuff and that the sports stuff syncs back to the Suunto android app. Talking of which…
General Sports on the Suunto Wear OS APP
The Suunto 7 is for active people rather than athletic wannabes and multi-day, extreme adventurers. As such, the Suunto APP supports all major single sporting activities. Clearly, it is still work-in-progress so I won’t dwell too much on what might be added soon.
Whilst the onboard Suunto Wear OS APP does not support external Bluetooth Smart sensors, the Suunto 7 doessupport them via 3rd party apps. But what you lose with 3rd party sensors, you gain with onboard maps integrated into the Suunto 7’s Wear OS app. Try finding maps on a Garmin Venu.
Interestingly the Suunto app allows both MANUAL and AUTOMATIC laps but doesn’t yet support either interval training, adaptive training or sports mode customisation. At least not yet.
Running Differences
Not all running metrics were available on the Suunto 7 at the time of writing; cadence, pace, distance, time heart rate and others are either displayed or recorded.
Running Cadence & Pace (FusedSpeed) come from arm movements and GPS – both taken into account. Thus indoors on a treadmill, you get pace estimated solely from arm movements. My further understanding of WearOS is that the GPS on your phone will be used if the phone is present. On a normal run, with your phone at home, Suunto 7 will use the onboard GPS/Glonass/Galileo chip from Qualcomm.
Cycling Differences
The Suunto Wear OS app doesn’t support power, speed or cadence sensors but will give you GPS speed, distance, time, lap, elevation and HR data either on the watch or on the app. You will get richer cycling functionality on sports-specific devices like the Suunto 5 and Suunto 9.
Swimming Differences
Swimming functionality supports differently sized pools as well as detecting your stroke, pace, intervals and laps. Plus there is the added bonus of heart rate from swimming. Not all of that is displayed right now but it is recorded back to the Suunto android app.
Outdoors Differences
The Suunto 7 boasts heatmaps and free offline maps with a variety of styles, none are available on any other Suunto. Along with the quality feel of the hardware, ‘maps’ might be why Suunto believes it can justify a high price point. Also packed in are a barometer and GPS-altitude as well as FusedAlti, which combines the two. You get the vertical speed and weather functions and a compass can be delivered with several Wear OS app options.
But what’s missing from the Suunto Wear OS app is waypoint navigation and route navigation. You just can’t sync the routes from your Suunto smartphone app to the watch (yet). Of course, there ARE other Wear OS apps that can provide routing and, indeed, you might even prefer to do that by installing Google Maps or one of the many apps that leverage Google Maps or other map services.
Suunto 7 Accuracy
There’s a lot to say about the accuracy but it can be summarised as similar to competing devices but with the need for a bit of fine-tuning (that will come). Here is a link to a detailed post covering many aspects of Suunto 7 accuracy for those of you who are interested. There are some new results added in there but they just confirm my initial findings. Note: This post is available only for supporters to access…the start of this paragraph summarises the accuracy results.
Putting that to one side, what Suunto need to address in short order are just these three things
DONE:Proper integration of the Google Fit data into the Suunto android app. It’s a silly omission even if there are workarounds.
DONE:Custom sports profiles. Now available, but the devil is in the detail
and in the medium-term, it would seem sensible to
Add routing & routing guidance within the Suunto Wear OS app to partner the map/routing functionality in the Suunto android app
In the longer term many enhancements could be made to the Suunto Wear OS app but their introduction will be mitigated by the existence of similar functionality in other Wear OS apps.
Whilst the Suunto 7 is a great quality piece of hardware I’m sure that we will see even better cases offered for the Suunto 7 later this year…it’s what Suunto do!
My opinion is that the Suunto 7 is here to stay – in terms of name, format and target purpose/audience. I’m expecting that this strategic change for Suunto will pay off and that they will iterate newer versions of the Suunto 7 in the years to come.
Buy Suunto 7 Discounts, Pricing and Availability
In the USA you are looking to buy the Suunto 7at an rrp of $499 and in the UK it’s GBP429 and in the EU it’s 479€ to buy. these ARE discounted though. The best prices I’ve found are linked to in the red banner below at Wiggle in the UK/EU and REI in the USA where members get $50 off.
Q: Is it good value-for-money?
A: There is nothing directly comparable, except perhaps the Casio WSD-F30 – the Suunto 7 is better than that and a tad cheaper.Do you get a large robust screen on an Apple Watch? No. Do you get such a range of smart features on a Garmin Venu? No. But then the Garmin and Apple clearly have other strengths.
Suunto 7 is a NEW DIRECTION for the company. Wear OS is new to both Suunto and much of its traditional customer base.
Wear OS gives Suunto inbuilt smartcapabilities and the strategic ‘app store’ they have missed for the last few years. With one fell swoop the Suunto 7 ‘easily’ has contactless payments, Google Assistant, Spotify Music, Google Maps, Google Fit, activity tracking and a plethora of other apps
In my opinion, this is a good SMART watch from Suunto with BAGS of potential of the sports side of things. The Suunto 7 exudes quality & speed compared to many competitor Wear OS sports watches which exude mediocrity.
It looks great. The screen looks great and the watch feels great as you use it throughout the day.
I’ve used the watch for 50+ hours of running, pool swimming, cycling, indoor cycling, weights and treadmill running. Is the Suunto 7 perfect? A: No, definitely not.The in-sport experience is limited compared to dedicated pro-sports watches, yet Suunto’s ambitiously-scoped sports app is streets ahead of most other sports apps on Wear OS. Nevertheless, there are improvements needed to keep everyone happy.
The price is steep but you might prefer to wear and use a Suunto 7 for 24×7 usage than either an Apple Watch, Garmin Venu or Casio WSD-F30. Q:Why so?A: Aesthetics and smarts.
Pros
Spotify & Google Play Music (Wear OS), plus music rips
Onboard, cached Mapping plus other 3rd party mapping options
App Store (Google Play) and the ability to install MANY apps
NFC Payments (Visa, Mastercard, Amex Wear OS via the superior GPAY/Google PAY)
Quality construction with a GREAT, LARGE touchscreen and decent buttons
A good Suunto Wear OS app which supports most sports, with many more sporty apps in the Wear OS app store.
Optional ‘always on’ screen for exercising
Cons
For map routing you will need to use one of the many 3rd party solutions like Google Maps (March 2020)
Battery life is good for a Wear OS watch and when compared to the Apple Watch or almost all other SMART watches. Butthe battery is not up to the same level as a ‘pro’ sports watch whose screens are inferior.
Suunto 7 is a larger format watch, perhaps not suitable for the skinny-wristed amongst you.
3rd party apps must be used to support sports sensors such as STRYD by using Ghost Racer/SportyGo
oHR and GPS accuracy is comparable to competitors ie meh-to-good.
Serious triathletes and pro-adventurers are best advised to choose a sport-specific watch…you already knew that.
37 thoughts on “Suunto 7 Review | Best for Wear OS now with Spotify”
Hello, thank you for the review. I also own and tested this watch for the last 3 weeks, especially it‘s sport activity recording (running/pool swim). Generally I would sign your review, but sometimes I got the impression this review aims to make this watch looking good, especially considering the very bad review of DCRainmaker. There‘s no point to further comment on short battery performance, it‘s known and probably accepted. One may emphasize the good Performance on GPS recordings. But one definitely also has to comment it‘s very bad optical heard rate recording. And outside Suunto App, OHr recording at probably 15min intervals is basically ridiculous and unworthy for a company like Suunto. Basically, sport tracking and activity tracking should work when implemented as in Suunto 7. Suunto need to respond pretty fast to the complaints, else they‘re done.
hi Matz, thank you for the considered comment
I have linked to a separate post, above, where I present many gps and hr recording (more than dcrainmaker!). i’m not saying either of us are right/wrong. I will say that ohr is variable
yes i agree that sport and activity tracking should work, however I am happy to debate any comments i have made in that regard and i have said that improvements are needed in those 2 areas.
I think you nailed it 5krunner. I have tested this watch quite a bit too and I find it is the only OHR that works for me and is better than my AW4 and as good as an S9b with a belt. So I disagree with @Matz Runner about the OHR. None of the other Suunto watches OHR has worked at all for me. I am an iOS user and I prefer the S7 to the AW4 because of familiar sports implementation. Battery life is as good as the AW4 for me so I don’t think anyone can complain about battery life, it is not meant to be an S9 or S5. Oh, I run ultras so the S9baro is my go to watch but I like the S7 enough that it has become my weekday watch. For gym workouts I sync the workout notes to GoogleKeep and play music from the watch….no need to have my phone (yeah!).
quite, i probably had fewer issues with the initial hr on this compared to previous Suunto’s. as my ohr tests show there is still some work to be done.
you say “Battery life is as good as the AW4 for me so I don’t think anyone can complain about battery life, it is not meant to be an S9 or S5” and I pretty much agree. maybe there are some caveats in differing use cases that impact on battery life. as you know i gave a specific example, above, on battery life..
GoogleKeep…that’s new to me. i might have to have a little look there..thank you!
Not the watch for me. Cool concept though.
Question, what do you think Suunto will do when snapdragon finally releases the new processor? The 4100 or something like that.
Will they make a spin-off of the 7 or just implement new hardware and keep calling it a 7? Like they kinda/sorta did with the Suunto 3.
yeah i forget the name of that one. I covered it somewhere (edit: https://the5krunner.com/2019/07/10/new-snapdragon-for-wearos/) – Wear 2700 or 429 Wear prob the name.
I think I said above that my opinion is that suunto will now stick with 3/5/7/9 and iterate them in some way. eg gen 1 gen 2 etc. indeed (by coincidence) I saw somewhere only a couple of hours ago (maybe amazon.com) that the suunto 3 was referred to as gen 2 (implication being that the 3fitness is gen 1)
I just finished looking at the potential specs for the new snapdragon 3300.
If Suunto keeps the 7 name going forward they risk further confusion to their buyers. The potential improvements could make a successor to this watch vastly different.
So, I hope your speculation isn’t the case. On the flip side it seems like the consistency of naming will be nice.
Suunto 3 for the casuals
Suunto 5 for the poor athlete
Suunto 7 for the wear OS wannabe athlete
Suunto 9 for the athletes, adventurers, and anybody who gets battery/charge anxiety
yes that sums up the product categories. I guess I’d use different descriptions 😉
snapdragon3300. i need to look at that some more. ty for the bump
Nice review. So this watch lays solid foundations for Suunto 7 Gen 2. Fully featured Suunto App, WearOS efficiency updates, smaller node Snapdragon chipset, dual frequency GPS chipset, (perhaps even a smaller display using a transflective always on screen). The dream is on.
no wear os app has the features that people are hoping for. i’m not saying it cant be done but…
anyway, some of the feature omissions i talk about SHOULD be added in short measure. more advanced omissions need another app to be used
wear os updates, yes as per my other post today these are being thought about but it must be WAY down the line for those
new snapdragon might be this yeay but i doubt suunto will use it for a year or two
dual frequency?? is that in the new snapdragon. not sure about that. i doubt it
Yeah I agree the chances of it being done (for cheap over a short period of time) is like 0. It will require someone with resources that can cross subsidize like Suunto in this case or maybe even Google.
Does this watch not use the Sony chipset for GPS? Do have hope for Sony releasing a dual frequency GPS chip?
no it’s not Sony.
I believe the GNSS is all part of the Qualcomm snapdragon multi-purpose chip.
chips that do lots of stuff can save juice (thats my technical comment for the day over with 😉 )
Qualcom 4100 uses Qualcomm WTR 2965, which do not seem to support dual-frequency. So I expect that there will be some more years until there is a watch with good GPS.
let’s see
“SportyGo – Now has support for CALIBRATION of STRYD, support 3rd party sensors”……it has CALIBRATION, really?
that’s what Stefan said.
I asked him to do it. he said he did
Thanks, i will send him a mail just if he can explain how does it work
hold that he said “But I can add a factor”, i mis-read it, sorry
The factor is already added – since one week 🙂
noted and changed in the text, thank you
Thanks for the review. Really like the idea of a WearOS based watch but this isn’t it as I’m a big fan of using my Stryd footpod for longer runs so no support for external sensors & the fact that the battery most likely wouldn’t survive my annual Comrades run (cause I’m slow 🙂 ) means I’m sticking to my 645. Maybe the maxim of don’t buy version 1 applies here?
3rd party sensors are supported by other Wear OS apps
battery life…hmm yeah.
V1 – maybe, yes. depends what you want on the sports side
“Best WearOS Sports Watch?”
I mean, to be fair, the pool is quite full of completely half baked sports watches. Standing out in that crowd isn’t challenging.
Also, your review reads like a Suunto fan trying to be as nice as possible. You can compare it to the AW4 or other WearOS “sports” watches to make it seem okay, but it frankly sucks as a sports watch (AW4 is an *alright* sports watch). Horrible battery life. Inaccurate oHR (“in need of fine tuning” – lol). Can’t natively connect to external sensors. Can’t customize data screens during activities. For $499!!
Look. It’s a decent watch if you want a good looking WearOS watch that tracks your occasional 5k run or ride and don’t mind spending $500 to do so. But it’s not a real sports watch. Suunto should not have put it in it’s series of sports watches.
I’m half with what you say. 😉 … let’s look at the other half 😉
Maybe instead I could have said “The Suunto 7 is over-priced with an under-featured, proprietary Wear OS app” and from a keen athletic perspective, I would personally choose a different watch as I do LOTS of sports” 😉
I’m not a ‘suunto fan’. I am a fan of sports and fitness tech. Grrrrr. !! 🙂
dcr was accused for being too critical in his review, and you are saying i’m being too nice. fair enough. it’s great everyone has opinions. read his, read mine and make your own mind up.
I think dcr and i both state pretty much the same facts give or take a bit which made some people think. indeed in the comments section of his review he also specifically points EXACTLY that out by making reference to my review here!!
in terms of the ohr, you will find that there are quite a few other people who are having their best suunto ohr results with this watch. good luck to them. ohr performance really varies based on a lot of factors. if you look at my suunto 7 accuracy piece, I have listed more ohr results than any other reviewer and my results were certainly not perfect. I have also linked to ohr results from other reviewers who have had better/good results.
Comparing suunto7 to the best-selling wearbale of all-time is reasonable I would have thought?? this watch targets SMART and sporty uses, it doesn’t target sports watches like garmin 245 /suunto 9 etc. most of the criticisms are valid if you come from that perspective.
Price…yep I queried the price too. suunto can EASILY change the price if they’ve set it too high. they probably won’t change it but instead periodically discount it.
you say ” it’s not a real sports watch. Suunto should not have put it in its series of sports watches.” yes i agree with that statement and i think suunto would agree with the first bit of it. I think the number “7” might imply that it’s better than 5 and not as good as 9 but i’m not sure where to go with that argument. i think suunto just wanted a simple product naming convention after the nonsensical names they started giving to the SPARTAN series.
anyway, I’ll stand by what I say. happy to debate it… #SmartWatch
Hey,
You’re referencing my comments. My big issue with Ray was the tone and not content.
Both you and Ray have similar content, more or less. His tone was so much more negative. The tone in your article is more reserved.
However, the biggest difference is the perspective. You tried to identify where the watch sits and who this watch will appeal to.
I believe this is why your review seems more positive (a general understanding of the product/target demographic) and his seems so very negative. This led to Ray making comparisons with dissimilar products which made this bad watch seem so much worse.
yes, I *agree* with what you say.
I would re-itterate my earlier thrust that READERS surely do not want every review to be exactly the same. Intelligent people surely want to read different perspectives.
“This led to Ray making comparisons with dissimilar products which made this bad watch seem so much worse.”
So, let’s say Ford launched an all electric pickup truck. Looks exactly like the F150, but is all electric. Oh, but it also only has a 50 mile range. You can’t actually use it for a work scenario. Can’t tow anything more than a bike rack. Definitely no putting any more than 500lbs in the bed of the truck. But damnnnnnn, the screens in the truck were nice. It was basically silent to drive. It’s fast.
Comparing this brand new all electric truck to “old” trucks made by Ford and other truck manufacturer’s is pretty fair, despite it sort of falling into a different category. You can’t just say it compares only to other electric vehicles.. because it’s a pickup truck.. made by Ford. It may be a decent electric vehicle, but it SUCKS as a truck.
It’s not a perfect analogy, but it’s pretty darn close. You don’t get to just ignore who’s making it and what it looks almost IDENTICAL to. This is a CRAPPY Suunto adventure watch. It’s a decent WearOS sports watch.
A 50 mile range might work for an urban truck in a no/low-emission zone. although I take your point in that a fully laden electric pickup truck will likely have ‘mileage issues’
“This is a CRAPPY Suunto adventure watch. It’s a decent WearOS sports watch.”
so….I’ve almost got you to say ‘Best Wear Os Sports Watch’, i’ll keep plugging away 😉
it’s not a crappy adventure watch, there’s all kinds of adventures. sure it’s crappy for some of them…and fine for others it’s not an S9/Fenix, it’s more competing for the same type of buyer as the Casio PROTREK WSD-F30 (admittedly the PRO name of that is open to discussion as well)
Hi, Are you going to update your review for the Sept 2020 update which now includes:
Always on fitness tracking screen
Fused tracking which can extend battery life
Ability to import routes
Basic route navigation
the work is never-ending! lots of watches, lots of updates
Hello,
what do you think about the new Mobvoi Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS? Do you plan to test it?
I’m very interested to known if ticwatch 3 can compete with suunto 7 for hiking/trekking activities.
hi
i would trust the suunto WAY more than the Ticwatch and have no plans to test the latter
How to make download music to watch? There are no Google Play app in the Google store. Via Spotify can possible only stream
Are you asking how to do it or pointing out the craziness of Google supporting YouTube Music on IOS before WearOS?
YouTube Music for WearOS will be ‘soon’
it’s a good watch, the best wear os sports watch gets better.
the sports capabilities of the Suunto app are clearly superior to the native abilities of the apple watch and the suunto app is one of the very best watch-based sports apps
if you can be sufficiently organised to charge it all will be good
April update just continues to improve with sleep tracking, recovery, 10 tile limit, additional suunto tiles for new features.
Hello, thank you for the review. I also own and tested this watch for the last 3 weeks, especially it‘s sport activity recording (running/pool swim). Generally I would sign your review, but sometimes I got the impression this review aims to make this watch looking good, especially considering the very bad review of DCRainmaker. There‘s no point to further comment on short battery performance, it‘s known and probably accepted. One may emphasize the good Performance on GPS recordings. But one definitely also has to comment it‘s very bad optical heard rate recording. And outside Suunto App, OHr recording at probably 15min intervals is basically ridiculous and unworthy for a company like Suunto. Basically, sport tracking and activity tracking should work when implemented as in Suunto 7. Suunto need to respond pretty fast to the complaints, else they‘re done.
hi Matz, thank you for the considered comment
I have linked to a separate post, above, where I present many gps and hr recording (more than dcrainmaker!). i’m not saying either of us are right/wrong. I will say that ohr is variable
yes i agree that sport and activity tracking should work, however I am happy to debate any comments i have made in that regard and i have said that improvements are needed in those 2 areas.
I think you nailed it 5krunner. I have tested this watch quite a bit too and I find it is the only OHR that works for me and is better than my AW4 and as good as an S9b with a belt. So I disagree with @Matz Runner about the OHR. None of the other Suunto watches OHR has worked at all for me. I am an iOS user and I prefer the S7 to the AW4 because of familiar sports implementation. Battery life is as good as the AW4 for me so I don’t think anyone can complain about battery life, it is not meant to be an S9 or S5. Oh, I run ultras so the S9baro is my go to watch but I like the S7 enough that it has become my weekday watch. For gym workouts I sync the workout notes to GoogleKeep and play music from the watch….no need to have my phone (yeah!).
quite, i probably had fewer issues with the initial hr on this compared to previous Suunto’s. as my ohr tests show there is still some work to be done.
you say “Battery life is as good as the AW4 for me so I don’t think anyone can complain about battery life, it is not meant to be an S9 or S5” and I pretty much agree. maybe there are some caveats in differing use cases that impact on battery life. as you know i gave a specific example, above, on battery life..
GoogleKeep…that’s new to me. i might have to have a little look there..thank you!
Not the watch for me. Cool concept though.
Question, what do you think Suunto will do when snapdragon finally releases the new processor? The 4100 or something like that.
Will they make a spin-off of the 7 or just implement new hardware and keep calling it a 7? Like they kinda/sorta did with the Suunto 3.
yeah i forget the name of that one. I covered it somewhere (edit: https://the5krunner.com/2019/07/10/new-snapdragon-for-wearos/) – Wear 2700 or 429 Wear prob the name.
I think I said above that my opinion is that suunto will now stick with 3/5/7/9 and iterate them in some way. eg gen 1 gen 2 etc. indeed (by coincidence) I saw somewhere only a couple of hours ago (maybe amazon.com) that the suunto 3 was referred to as gen 2 (implication being that the 3fitness is gen 1)
I just finished looking at the potential specs for the new snapdragon 3300.
If Suunto keeps the 7 name going forward they risk further confusion to their buyers. The potential improvements could make a successor to this watch vastly different.
So, I hope your speculation isn’t the case. On the flip side it seems like the consistency of naming will be nice.
Suunto 3 for the casuals
Suunto 5 for the poor athlete
Suunto 7 for the wear OS wannabe athlete
Suunto 9 for the athletes, adventurers, and anybody who gets battery/charge anxiety
yes that sums up the product categories. I guess I’d use different descriptions 😉
snapdragon3300. i need to look at that some more. ty for the bump
Nice review. So this watch lays solid foundations for Suunto 7 Gen 2. Fully featured Suunto App, WearOS efficiency updates, smaller node Snapdragon chipset, dual frequency GPS chipset, (perhaps even a smaller display using a transflective always on screen). The dream is on.
no wear os app has the features that people are hoping for. i’m not saying it cant be done but…
anyway, some of the feature omissions i talk about SHOULD be added in short measure. more advanced omissions need another app to be used
wear os updates, yes as per my other post today these are being thought about but it must be WAY down the line for those
new snapdragon might be this yeay but i doubt suunto will use it for a year or two
dual frequency?? is that in the new snapdragon. not sure about that. i doubt it
Yeah I agree the chances of it being done (for cheap over a short period of time) is like 0. It will require someone with resources that can cross subsidize like Suunto in this case or maybe even Google.
Does this watch not use the Sony chipset for GPS? Do have hope for Sony releasing a dual frequency GPS chip?
no it’s not Sony.
I believe the GNSS is all part of the Qualcomm snapdragon multi-purpose chip.
chips that do lots of stuff can save juice (thats my technical comment for the day over with 😉 )
Qualcom 4100 uses Qualcomm WTR 2965, which do not seem to support dual-frequency. So I expect that there will be some more years until there is a watch with good GPS.
let’s see
“SportyGo – Now has support for CALIBRATION of STRYD, support 3rd party sensors”……it has CALIBRATION, really?
that’s what Stefan said.
I asked him to do it. he said he did
Thanks, i will send him a mail just if he can explain how does it work
hold that he said “But I can add a factor”, i mis-read it, sorry
The factor is already added – since one week 🙂
noted and changed in the text, thank you
Thanks for the review. Really like the idea of a WearOS based watch but this isn’t it as I’m a big fan of using my Stryd footpod for longer runs so no support for external sensors & the fact that the battery most likely wouldn’t survive my annual Comrades run (cause I’m slow 🙂 ) means I’m sticking to my 645. Maybe the maxim of don’t buy version 1 applies here?
3rd party sensors are supported by other Wear OS apps
battery life…hmm yeah.
V1 – maybe, yes. depends what you want on the sports side
“Best WearOS Sports Watch?”
I mean, to be fair, the pool is quite full of completely half baked sports watches. Standing out in that crowd isn’t challenging.
Also, your review reads like a Suunto fan trying to be as nice as possible. You can compare it to the AW4 or other WearOS “sports” watches to make it seem okay, but it frankly sucks as a sports watch (AW4 is an *alright* sports watch). Horrible battery life. Inaccurate oHR (“in need of fine tuning” – lol). Can’t natively connect to external sensors. Can’t customize data screens during activities. For $499!!
Look. It’s a decent watch if you want a good looking WearOS watch that tracks your occasional 5k run or ride and don’t mind spending $500 to do so. But it’s not a real sports watch. Suunto should not have put it in it’s series of sports watches.
I’m half with what you say. 😉 … let’s look at the other half 😉
Maybe instead I could have said “The Suunto 7 is over-priced with an under-featured, proprietary Wear OS app” and from a keen athletic perspective, I would personally choose a different watch as I do LOTS of sports” 😉
I’m not a ‘suunto fan’. I am a fan of sports and fitness tech. Grrrrr. !! 🙂
dcr was accused for being too critical in his review, and you are saying i’m being too nice. fair enough. it’s great everyone has opinions. read his, read mine and make your own mind up.
I think dcr and i both state pretty much the same facts give or take a bit which made some people think. indeed in the comments section of his review he also specifically points EXACTLY that out by making reference to my review here!!
in terms of the ohr, you will find that there are quite a few other people who are having their best suunto ohr results with this watch. good luck to them. ohr performance really varies based on a lot of factors. if you look at my suunto 7 accuracy piece, I have listed more ohr results than any other reviewer and my results were certainly not perfect. I have also linked to ohr results from other reviewers who have had better/good results.
Comparing suunto7 to the best-selling wearbale of all-time is reasonable I would have thought?? this watch targets SMART and sporty uses, it doesn’t target sports watches like garmin 245 /suunto 9 etc. most of the criticisms are valid if you come from that perspective.
Price…yep I queried the price too. suunto can EASILY change the price if they’ve set it too high. they probably won’t change it but instead periodically discount it.
you say ” it’s not a real sports watch. Suunto should not have put it in its series of sports watches.” yes i agree with that statement and i think suunto would agree with the first bit of it. I think the number “7” might imply that it’s better than 5 and not as good as 9 but i’m not sure where to go with that argument. i think suunto just wanted a simple product naming convention after the nonsensical names they started giving to the SPARTAN series.
anyway, I’ll stand by what I say. happy to debate it… #SmartWatch
Hey,
You’re referencing my comments. My big issue with Ray was the tone and not content.
Both you and Ray have similar content, more or less. His tone was so much more negative. The tone in your article is more reserved.
However, the biggest difference is the perspective. You tried to identify where the watch sits and who this watch will appeal to.
I believe this is why your review seems more positive (a general understanding of the product/target demographic) and his seems so very negative. This led to Ray making comparisons with dissimilar products which made this bad watch seem so much worse.
yes, I *agree* with what you say.
I would re-itterate my earlier thrust that READERS surely do not want every review to be exactly the same. Intelligent people surely want to read different perspectives.
“This led to Ray making comparisons with dissimilar products which made this bad watch seem so much worse.”
So, let’s say Ford launched an all electric pickup truck. Looks exactly like the F150, but is all electric. Oh, but it also only has a 50 mile range. You can’t actually use it for a work scenario. Can’t tow anything more than a bike rack. Definitely no putting any more than 500lbs in the bed of the truck. But damnnnnnn, the screens in the truck were nice. It was basically silent to drive. It’s fast.
Comparing this brand new all electric truck to “old” trucks made by Ford and other truck manufacturer’s is pretty fair, despite it sort of falling into a different category. You can’t just say it compares only to other electric vehicles.. because it’s a pickup truck.. made by Ford. It may be a decent electric vehicle, but it SUCKS as a truck.
It’s not a perfect analogy, but it’s pretty darn close. You don’t get to just ignore who’s making it and what it looks almost IDENTICAL to. This is a CRAPPY Suunto adventure watch. It’s a decent WearOS sports watch.
A 50 mile range might work for an urban truck in a no/low-emission zone. although I take your point in that a fully laden electric pickup truck will likely have ‘mileage issues’
“This is a CRAPPY Suunto adventure watch. It’s a decent WearOS sports watch.”
so….I’ve almost got you to say ‘Best Wear Os Sports Watch’, i’ll keep plugging away 😉
it’s not a crappy adventure watch, there’s all kinds of adventures. sure it’s crappy for some of them…and fine for others it’s not an S9/Fenix, it’s more competing for the same type of buyer as the Casio PROTREK WSD-F30 (admittedly the PRO name of that is open to discussion as well)
Hi, Are you going to update your review for the Sept 2020 update which now includes:
Always on fitness tracking screen
Fused tracking which can extend battery life
Ability to import routes
Basic route navigation
the work is never-ending! lots of watches, lots of updates
thank you to everyone that supports this site
https://the5krunner.com/2020/09/11/suunto-7-much-more-to-routes-than-meets-the-eye/
Hello,
what do you think about the new Mobvoi Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS? Do you plan to test it?
I’m very interested to known if ticwatch 3 can compete with suunto 7 for hiking/trekking activities.
hi
i would trust the suunto WAY more than the Ticwatch and have no plans to test the latter
How to make download music to watch? There are no Google Play app in the Google store. Via Spotify can possible only stream
Are you asking how to do it or pointing out the craziness of Google supporting YouTube Music on IOS before WearOS?
YouTube Music for WearOS will be ‘soon’
Another update for the Suunto 7 just released: https://www.suunto.com/en-au/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-7-software-updates/
I got mine last week for AUD 390 on sale off Amazon – – – with all these feature updates, it might actually be a very good purchase!
ty: https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/12/suunto-gps-accuracy-increaases/
it’s a good watch, the best wear os sports watch gets better.
the sports capabilities of the Suunto app are clearly superior to the native abilities of the apple watch and the suunto app is one of the very best watch-based sports apps
if you can be sufficiently organised to charge it all will be good
April update just continues to improve with sleep tracking, recovery, 10 tile limit, additional suunto tiles for new features.