Coros 2020 Plans Leaked…and more

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Coros 2020 Plans Leaked

We have a sort-of-authorized leak today from Coros, with some heavy teasers of some announcements coming soon. Plus I’ll give you a strong steer in areas related to this announcement that also impact on developments that several other bike computer/sports watch makers are very actively pursuing right now.

Coros Pace

In 2018, Coros released the PACE as their first running-cum-multisport watch. It was very much in the same aesthetic domain as Garmin’s 235/735XT. Ok, it looked the same ๐Ÿ˜‰

It has been kept updated with most of the relevant bits of new firmware since launch. However, these updates will now mostly stop as the hardware has reached its limits.

I’ll leave it to your fervent imagination as to what that means is going to happen.

 

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Coros & FinalSurge

FinalSurge has one killer function that they’ve not yet quite managed to kill any competitor with yet. I’ve mentioned it several times on this site over the last year but the not-so-secret weapon still has not been deployed too widely.

That not-so-secret function is a workout builder. Yay! Just like what Todays Plan (TP) and Training Peaks (TP) and others have. Except it’s free…properly free. Meaning you can schedule lots of future stuff without having to have a paid-for account like TP and, err, TP. It even supports running power when workouts are created, although there are issues with the execution of running power workouts on Garmin watches

Coros is hoping to support importing workout from Final Surge later this year.

Note: All companies have to make money. Final Surge charge for plans. Which I think is fair.

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Coros Customized Workout Tool

So with that knowledge, you won’t be surprised that we shall soon see the release of precursor functionality for a rich training offering for the Coros environment.

Essentially this means that Coros is close to releasing their own, in-house workout builder which then has the means to execute those workouts on Coros watches. Once that is in place, Coros has useful functions that they can release to existing customers as well as the technical base to start integrating with 3rd party training plan and workout providers.

We saw a similar announcement from STRYD last week. STRYD announced on-watch functionality to build structured power workouts, that implementation is a little bit clunky and I assume it is the first step in the creation of platform-based workouts and the calendarisation of them both from internal and external sources. Interestingly, STRYD has also boosted their podcast marketing recently with a ‘For the love of running‘ series also including beginners’ tips for running.

STRYD Structured Workouts – major app update

 

  • Expect Training Peaks and Final Surge workout import support for Coros as early as May and expect it to support swim, bike, run and strength workouts.
  • Expect this functionality to be extended to all VERTIX, APEX Pro and APEX models, starting with the implementation of single workouts and moving, later, towards calendarisation.

Structured Workout Integration

In my opinion, structured workout creation and, less so, training plans are less-used features than you would imagine (unless they come free). They are also complex to implement and execute. ie there’s not a massive paid-for market and it’s costly. The low hanging fruit has been picked and this is one of the small-but-juicy fruits half-way up the tree.

In 2019 Garmin announced new changes to how their CIQ plan was to support the integration of complex structured workouts from 3rd party training providers. That move signalled the opening up of one of the last major areas of true sports-related functionality to all comers. Sure TP and FS want to link to Garmin but they are also building (or have already built) an open platform themselves and so they want to make their training platforms available to everyone outside of Garmin too.

Hence 2020 might well be the year of the prevalence of 2-way integrations between training platforms ie completed workout data from your running/bike platform and workout/schedules to your watch.

Sadly 2020 is also the year of indoor training for reasons we are all well aware of. Keep safe.

 

 

 

 

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8 thoughts on “Coros 2020 Plans Leaked…and more

  1. @FinalSurge: I appreciate that TSS is TP trademark but at least they could provide weekly, monthly totals in TRIMPs or FSSS (FinalSurge Stress Score) similar to what Strava or Xert is doing. Totals for distance and time don’t really cut it. Time in Zone totals are nice touch. Other than that it’s really useful and user friendly platform (greetings Garmin Connect devs).

  2. Give me more. There’s room for advancement with Coros and as a recent convert with an Apex Pro, the more the better. All that’s missing is that Stryd Support because the Power coming from the Coros Pod is…not good. The other metrics they’re working with were good (Basically Advanced Training Metrics from Garmins Pod and HRM-Run/Tri); but that algorithm for power is bonkers.

    I did a hill sprint with the Coros Pod and my Stryd (running off of its app and ported into Runalyze later). Stryd reported 489w, Coros? 1185w. For the most part, the Coros pod was consistently 200w higher than whatever Stryd was reporting.

    Still, I got 10 days of battery with about two hours of GPS usage and about 6 hours of indoor training done. I don’t know how they do it, but yeah.

    1. You know that there is no standard to running power and you canโ€™t compare numbers from one source (Stryd) to another (Coros, Garmin Pod, SHFT…)?

      The power is always guesstimated because, unlike cycling, there is no way for direct measurement on the road.

      1. yeah, stryd guestimate from metabolic cost, the papers on it are pretty decent though.

        yes the power numbers aren’t comparable.

        yes you should find that max power up a hill is greater than your max power on the flat (least it is for me and is for cycling too). 1000w might be plausible if you are 80kg++

    1. Interesting… The link leads to a page “40:00:00” (40 hours?) and a battery at 100%… A new super-watch for ultra crowd a la COROS? Battery management features for Vantage, similar to Fenix and Suunto watches?

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