Garmin ENDURO – What’s Rubbish So Far
This stuff will all get fixed. I have to say, for £800/Eu/$900, I’m not impressed.
I bought this myself, partly helped by supporters. No Garmin freebies, no PR loaners, no ads or articles sponsored by Garmin here folks.
I have upgraded the firmware to the first public release. I can only assume that this introduces new bugs that weren’t found by the test athletes who used the late beta versions prior to the launch last week. Accuracy seems like a step backwards from what I saw last year on the Forerunner 745 and general setup+synchronisation of settings could be much better.
- Enduro is sometimes slow when performing ‘admin’ tasks. A snail was faster when setting it up. Enduro is fine when recording sport.
- Taking it off the charger takes 5 seconds for the %charge to change to the watch face. I guess that’s probably a bit faster than before on some devices. Actually, WAY faster than those that had maps but 5 seconds to wake up, really??
- It takes 27 seconds from plugging in the charger until the G drive pops up on my windows PC. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
- Enduro hung several times when setting up and required restarts. The worst Garmin setup experience for about 18 months (generally Garmin have been very good of late with new devices in my experience)
- On pressing the start button, there is sometimes a 2-second delay until the sports profile screen appears #Lag
- The GNSS accuracy (GLONASS) is really not good, the 745 from the end of last year was very good, Enduro’s new internal platform seems to have gone back 2-years in terms of accuracy. Back to square 1 with the Sony chip. (Methodology + Results). Here is just one example of an open water swim…I mean run, the same section with GPS-only was pretty good.
- In my formal GPS test only these devices have done worse than the Enduro (GPS+GLONASS): Mobvoi Ticwatch S (same score), Suunto 9 (eventually significantly improved ), and err…well.. that’s it. Totally rubbish GPS+GLONASS performance.
- I must have said this a thousand times now, once again GLONASS seems to be the problem and GPS-only is relatively good. The following image shows a good & representative excerpt of a GPS-only performance. Indeed with GPS, the overall performances are on par with some of the previous typically-good Garmin GPS performances.
- Enduro lost the connection to STRYD Zones CIQ data field (version as of 23Feb2021) and didn’t re-establish itself until I started another workout. Annoying, when you are at the one hour point of a 2-hour run. Luckily I had my Apple Watch 6 running iSmoothRun on the other wrist… which showed the STRYD data perfectly fine. Again, I thought the new sensor hub had sorted out nonsense like this, although it might be the STRYD Zones app that has received a few updates.
- UGH: The memory available for CIQ is the same as F5, F5, F6, F6s ie lower than 5X/5plus, 6 PRO Series, 6X. Why?? It’s cheaper, Garmin can’t change this.
- Heart Rate is just about acceptable but a little bit too spikey in places for my liking. The spikiness is new behaviour to recent Garmins.
- Enduro feels a bit heavier than I’d hoped, it’s 6X-sized chunky and consequently moves about on my wrist a wee bit. I assumed the oHR WHEN RUNNING would be abysmal as a result. But it wasn’t.
- The sport-loop velcro strap is differently implemented from how Apple, Coros and others do it. Garmin’s strap has velcro bits at each end. This looks nicer but it’s just a bit annoying getting it on and off. It makes tightening it when in use sometimes a tiny bit harder than it needs to be. Becasue of this design it WILL fall off…with the Coros/Appel design it can’t accidentally fall off.
- Let’s say I want to add the SLEEP Widget. How many key presses will that take? Answer: 25 (or 10 if you knew to page up the list of widget choices)
- The charging cable is extremely snug in the port. That’s probably a good thing as in my experience these tend to wear loose and give intermittent connection problems as time progresses. Edit: This got looser
- Stupid yellow detailing. I guess I knew that when I bought it. I don’t like yellow. For £800 I would have liked to choose the detailing.
- Button-gate v2 – The buttons ARE OK. But they don’t feel quite right. Let’s hope they ‘settle in’ with some more presses. EDIT: This is fine
- Just about every CIQ app/data field I want to use hasn’t been updated yet. Grrr. That’s the developers’ fault rather than Garmin, well, it would be if they didn’t react quickly to a new launch or perhaps Garmin could have in some way prepared them for the parameters of the device that was to be launched? It’s still annoying. I know how to sideload PRGs but I think I only have PRGs for smaller-sized screens and so they don’t render properly. (If anyone has the Humon Interval/Endurance DFs for the Fenix 6X please send them to me!!)
- Did I mention the heart rate? Here I’m on my Vasa swim trainer and the Enduro is rubbish. Perhaps actually swimming in real water would have improved it…errrr. No. I don’t even know how to set the offsets properly to line the Enduro’s HR peaks with the others, it’s that bad.
- Yeah but the heart rate is better when you are cycling, right? You guessed it, nope. This was on a TT bike and I was trying some flat & generally smooth roads to test out various positional changes.
- “You have 2 new records“. No, I don’t. Really. Jeez, do I still have to copy my PR/PBs manually via Connect? £800 folks and I must be in the top 0.1% of people who have bought the most Garmin devices #BestCustomers.
- VO2max? Well, I’d previously enabled Physio TrueUp and it’s dropped by 10 points. Lol.
- Random reboot whilst saving so far…just the one invalid fit file format file that was saved that wouldn’t upload. That said I can now get to hand the Enduro when it comes to saving every workout (see video below in the comments, I’m really not making this stuff up) Edit: beta firmware appears to fix this.
- Initially, Enduro could only find STRYD out of about 10 various sensors I had available to pair to. After a few workouts, Enduro was able to find the rest. Very strange. It also automatically paired to my hrm-pro without my agreement which then messed up the next hour of my life by invalidating the test. Grrrrr. And it involved running quite fast so I can’t just repeat it tomorrow.
- Want to pair to an external Garmin HRM-PRO? You might have to reboot the watch before it will connect. Furthermore, it was hard to pair as an ANT+ HRM, BLE was easier. Even when paired as ANT+ it sometimes simply would not connect to the session and thereby record zero HR for the workout, nor would it retrieve the cached HR in that scenario. #Sigh
- Device freezes…yep. Last night I had a device freeze and pressed various keys several times then, about 30 seconds later, it decided to action those keypresses. It did this several times until I pressed ctrl-alt-delete. Well, the Garmin equivalent.
- CIQ data fields…still just 2 per sport profile. I only mention this in case there were hopes that the new underlying architecture might enable more than 2 DFs…it appears not.
- I’ve broken my own rule and resorted to this beta firmware. The beta notes claim to have changed virtually nothing apart from some obscurity in ski mode yet the normally optional GPS and sensor hub components are also updated in the beta release. Strange that. I’m not making these errors up!
- To prove the point: Here is an example of being unable to save a workout. A somewhat basic requirement for a sports watch (Workaround: put it on the cable charger and it ends and uploads anyway).
- Here is a file from a 4.5-hour road bike ride. I had the Enduro underneath an arm warmer sleeve hence there is zero solar gain even though it was fairly sunny. I had a super-simple setup using oHR and GLONASS, a R9100P Dura-Ace powermeter but the backlight was on. Using the dcrainmaker analyzer tool to check the battery you can see that it’s burning through the juice very quickly although GLONASS will also add to the drain more battery than GPS-only.
Here’s a wider-raning Garmin Enduro Review. Edit: Garmin has already addressed several of these errors.
Points of interest
- There seems to be a new UI component that helps you choose your sports profiles and favourites at the start. Seemed nice, I’ve not used a Fenix for a while so it might already have been there.
- I didn’t use the CONNECT app to set the watch up (Garmin Express) so I’m not sure if it would have copied the settings from my last device (FR945). I certainly would expect it to a-la-Edge 530.
- The HRM-PRO received its first firmware update but I digress.
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