COROS Training Hub Update – Athlete Version
Another week…another new Coros feature. At this rate, by the end of 2021, they will have run out of features to include.
The Training Hub feature is an important step that should see Coros gain more credibility as a one-stop ‘pro-level solution’. Plus it demonstrates their ambition and gives a good indication of where they are taking the entire platform.
Q: And how much will the subscription for this new feature be?
A: Nada. Rien. Zip. Nothing. It’s free to Coros watch users when it goes live on 31 December 2021.
Garmin very much limits the number of features on the pro end of its web platform and leaves athletes to find the special features they need elsewhere. Similarly with Wahoo who do not have a web platform in the same vein (SYSTM).
We shall see in a minute that the end game for Coros could well be that of a complete end-to-end sports platform for all levels of athletes, fitness devotees and coaches.
I have had access to the beta platform for a couple of weeks but my own Coros data is somewhat patchy, so the images here are provided by Coros.
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COROS Training Hub
There is little that is special or innovative about the Training Hub. The interest comes for existing and future Coros watch users who will now be able to dive into their metrics on the web platform rather than the app.
Better than that, there are rich new features for following training plans and creating & calendarizing complex, structured workouts. It’s also interesting to see that Coros has already jumped in with Coach access and allows us to create teams. Those are the kinds of features that usually get delayed for long periods as they are hard to implement and which usually appeal only to a relatively small percentage of athletes.
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COROS Training Hub – First Impressions
It’s good.
Sure you can always add more but there are many and varied features on offer here.
The great thing is the amount of customizability that will be available to you on day 1. You can choose and order charts on your dashboard, drag and drop workouts on your training calendar, and change the data columns on your workout log view. The Hub can do more than that of course but those give you a flavour of the richness.
Let’s look at some of the key features in more detail
Calendar View
The phrase ‘Calendar View’ doesn’t sound glamorous. However, take a look at this. It’s pretty cool that there is a wealth of information on this one page.
The small tabs to the right of the screen let you choose a training plan or create a complex structured workout. In each case, scheduled workouts can be dragged and re-arranged on the calendar. Naturally, the workouts sync to your watch for you to execute them there. (I might add some more content on this later in the week)
You can see, above, how the historic workouts are kept on the calendar and how the ‘scores’ from the completed workouts are added in the training load chart. You can see how your readiness, freshness and fatigue fluctuate with the difficulty of your sessions and the amount of rest you enjoyed. Even better, when you add future workouts, their impact on future training load is also plotted! #Sweet. So, you can model the effects of your future training on your body. Likey, Likey.
Workout Log & Analysis
Again, nothing earth-shattering or novel here just solid features.
A few tweaks and you can change the columns of data on the workout list. then click through for more details of the workout, the routes and the splits. Plus the nice bonus of a pretty data chart that also allows zooming in to selections. Of course, you can customise the workout data shown. #Nice
Teams
Create a team photo and group up with some friends. Why not?
EvoLab Metrics
EvoLab from Coros contains similar information to that found in Garmin’s Firstbeat physiology. A particularly nice part of what Coros has done here is to allow you to re-arrange the screen layout to prioritise the physiology metrics you find important.
Dashboard
A good dashboard should consider past trends as well as future projections. It should perhaps cover those time-related aspects over health metrics as well as performance metrics. So as athletes we might be interested in VO2max trends, marathon level, race day information, recent workouts, performance predictions and so on.
The Coros dashboard still needs to add more but its scope is pretty good as it already is.
Take Out
There’s lots of great stuff here and I generally like what I see.
There’s more to add and more to improve but, at the same time, there’s already more here than offered by some of the competition.
It seems that the coach features are free. Thus adding an incentive for coaches to save money and get their athletes all to use Coros watches. A nice financial move by Coros if it works out as planned. The issue here will be athletes who don’t want to change from, say, Garmin when the coach wants them to. There’s currently no way to easily sync in their data from sources other than Coros.
My longstanding criticism has been that the Coros app is OK but a little on the weak side. The new web Training Hub goes a very long way to allaying my concerns about the app. But, set against that, must be the realisation that the trend amongst athletes is to view data in the apps and not on their PCs and MACs.
Holy crap. This looks fantastic, specially compared to Garmin Connect.
i was impressed too.! Very pleasantly surprised.
the training load modelling REALLY should be in Garmin Connect.
Now if only they followed up and fixed some of the issues plaguing their watches and the app. Like strength-only gym workouts, or incorrect calorie count for structured strength workouts, or inability to use map/navigation/reminders in structured running workouts, or no structured run workouts mode for treadmill, or no structured indoor bike workouts, or no in-workout timers like Polar and Suunto have…
I’m not even bringing up the dumpster fire that’s using a COROS watch as your daily driver. No notification center, no actions for notifications — not even dismissing one, no music controls, no weather widget, no dimming backlight during sleep hours or actually not triggering a backlight automatically… Sigh.
COROS should really commit to cleaning up and polishing the features they have before spreading out into exciting new territories. Or they will crumble because of their own overreach.
some great points as always
I like the overreach sentiment. i think that is valid but only quite a bit further down the line for them
I suspect Coros will do better financially as they are now proceeding ie by increasing the apparent feature scope.
as you say, all the bits need polishing at some point. And, as I’ve said, the whole app (and now platform) needs some UI TLC at some point.
it’s just WHEN then ‘point’ is.
I think that point was yesterday. A half-baked feature is worse than no feature at all.
Suunto doesn’t have structured workouts and can’t care less about it. They sell simplicity, reliability, and down-to-basics mindset. Take it or leave it.
But when you have a feature that’s 95% there and then just fail to get it over the finish line, what message does it send? At COROS. we are all about “good enough for government job” mentality?
What boggles my mind is COROS’ lack of any interest in bringing smart/daily features on par with Garmin. It’s way, way easier than building out the EvoLab or the training hub me thinks. And given COROS arguably well designed watches and good materials — all that titanium and sapphire goodness, wouldn’t they want their watches to be on people’s wrists all the time? Not just training?
yeah, kinda.
95% to you or me is 110% to someone else and 90% to their mate.
sapphire/titanium…yep that’s a very good point notwithstanding the ‘i don’t want to break it’ brigade (me)
That looks great! I’ve been having to run my data Coros -> Strava -> Elevate to look at my data on the computer. This looks much cleaner!
cleaner data flow but you’ll still send it to strava anyway 😉 and stravistix/elevate is pretty cool.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/elevate-for-strava/dhiaggccakkgdfcadnklkbljcgicpckn?hl=en
I just got my coros pace 2 and this training hub looks good. Unfortunately, it is in beta now and all spots are filled. Has anyone been told when it will open to all besides the “early 2022”?
hmm. Coros don’t say that.
they say the hoped-for live date is 31Dec2021.. obviously, things have to go well with the beta testing, that’s what it’s there for
there is no more certainty than that but I would expect it will be live in January at some point judging by the track record of Coros.
Wow, impressive, especially the planned load for future trainings and the coaching area. Stunning for a free feature. As a Polar/Garmin and Stryd user I really appcreciate what Coros is doing here. If the Apex2 or Apex Pro2 come with better sleep tracking and in general, if they add some quality of life features I will switch to the Coros platform/watches in 2022.
3 questions:
1. is the training load calculated by using HR or Power data?
2. do you know if Coros plans any autom. sync between Stryd Powercenter and Coros hub for FTP („CP“) and for planned trainings?
3. what is your personal impression reg metrics in the evolab? Valid and reliable?
Btw: great page! It‘s my first visit and as a runner and tech nerd I like it a lot!
hey there and welcome
1. trimp/hr i assume
2. not afaik
3. which in particular and compared to what elsewhere and for what purpose? I am somewhat sceptical of some of the metrics that are available on various platforms
Yeah, it‘s TRIMP only, unfortunately. Found your article on the evolab and also read all the info on the coros page. Not perfect but very promising. Thank you for your help.
I do my own math based on Power, pace and running dynamics in Tredict because neither PolarFlow nor Garmin provide advanced analyses. That‘s why I am very interested in what Coros is doing with evolab and the training hub.
there are other places for analysis like golden cheetah, stravistix/elevate, and intervals.icu
I’ve not come across https://www.tredict.com/ before , it appears to have reasonable levels of analysis