There is no intel around for a dual launch of Forerunners next week but several factors do point to it happening. There is a decent chance that February could be an interesting time for all things Forerunner. Here’s why.
Forerunner 165 – A Garmin Forerunner 165 is about to be announced and will be launched on Tuesday, February 20. The FR165 AMOLED is the new name for what otherwise would have been the FR65 and is the entry-level Forerunner, although the AMOLED screen will boost its price tag to a mid-range level, i.e. about $300.
It is unlikely that FR165 can justify the marketing expense of being launched alone. It’s possible, of course, but I would still make a small wager on a dual launch with ‘something else’
Towards the end of 2023, Garmin announced its new CIQ 7 features. These features often indicate the capabilities planned for new watch models in the following year and beyond. CIQ7 included some mysteriously named cloud service improvements, which I took to be related to LTE.
Garmin Forerunner 965 currently lacks Elevate Gen 5 and was released a year ago, ditto the Forerunner 955, released 20 months ago. A new heart rate sensor BY ITSELF would not justify a next-gen name (ie 975)
When the 945 LTE was released, it gained the obvious LTE features but also the latest-gen OHR sensor (Elevate 4)
In 2021, dcrainmaker interviewed Garmin staff and noted a likely future for further LTE development by the company. It’s been quiet for too long since then.
The Forerunner 745 represents a small format and more affordable triathlon watch. The 955 and 965 are larger format watches that are too big for many. However, Garmin’s Forerunner 265s may well represent the small-format triathlon watch in Garmin’s stable, albeit a lowly-featured one.
Here’s What We Will See
A small format, top-end triathlon watch.
Probably with AMOLED,
Definitely, with ELEVATE 5 and
Perhaps with LTE.
The harder question is what Garmin will call it on earth! FR965s LTE AMOLED? FR955s LTE? FR755 LTE AMOLED?
Forerunner 965 PRO is a more likely if we look at the naming applied to the Fenix range. But then that would imply 2 or 3 case size options ie 965s PRO AMOLED and 965 PRO AMOLED.
Take Out
Yes, it seems like the Forerunner 965 was only released yesterday.
Whatever is launched alongside the FR165 will hopefully give us a good insight into how, and if, Garmin proposes to take LTE forward. It requires separate commercial negotiations with carriers and support for Category M1 technology, but that’s not quite as hard as the number of negotiations required to make Garmin PAY work globally. There will probably be an inability to use Apple’s core voice and text messaging.
How to Guide:use Garmin PAY with most banks – here
After LTE, the next big tech bumps are microLED displays and optical/NIRS sensors that will start to detect many more things than HR/ECG/HRV/SpO2. Neither of these will happen in 2024, and perhaps not even in 2025. To remain exciting in 2024, Garmin almost HAS to do something with a proven technology like LTE despite its many technological limitations and limited commercial appeal. Failing that, where is the next super-software feature??? Hint: They must have all been pretty much invented.
Me? I’m happy with the Forerunner 965. It does the job.
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Fingers crossed for MIP:)
One last MIP until MicroLED arrives to save us from Amoled 😉
that could well be correct !!!
👍
Well no 165 or any watches on this Valentine’s Day, so I guess I better think quick for a new gift for my wife!! 🤣😉
flowers are going cheap today
l like garmin watch
An entry level FR 65 with Amoled and a +300 $€ price tag? Exactly my kind of humour!
Or Garmin paving the way for 1500 $€ FR975s and 700$€ FR275s.
Unfortunately that all is way to plausible to be a joking matter. :/
A watch with proper telephone function…I am dreaming of it since watching Knight Rider as a kid!!!!!!!
FR165 – yes ENTRY LEVEL !! I think I used quote marks ‘entry Level’. I was going to use ‘budget option’ but that wan’t right either !!!!!!!!
My Apple Watch works fine as a phone! Good signal, clear sound….I jsut look a bit stupid moving my wrist between my ear and mount.
Funny the generational comments as when I was a kid you’d refer to Dick Tracy when talking about watch-phones. (I’m in your Knight-rider generation too btw). Just a funny observation.
“However, Garmin’s Forerunner 265s may well represent the small-format triathlon watch in Garmin’s stable, albeit a lowly-featured one.”
Fully disagree. Maybe the case size is comparable to 745, but display much smaller. I’m not willing to pay money for even smaller display. I need a FR 765 with case and screen size like Epix 42.
what i particularly like about my fr265 is that it is the same case size as the fr255 but with a bigger display (AMOLED). so garmin should be able to put larger displays onto its existing/chosen watch format sizes.
Yeah, they really screwed up the 265s and the 255s with the ridiculous 1.1″ display. Well the 265s even more so with the weird non-flat display shape.
Fingers crossed for MIP:)
One last MIP until MicroLED arrives to save us from Amoled 😉
that could well be correct !!!
👍
Well no 165 or any watches on this Valentine’s Day, so I guess I better think quick for a new gift for my wife!! 🤣😉
flowers are going cheap today
l like garmin watch
An entry level FR 65 with Amoled and a +300 $€ price tag? Exactly my kind of humour!
Or Garmin paving the way for 1500 $€ FR975s and 700$€ FR275s.
Unfortunately that all is way to plausible to be a joking matter. :/
A watch with proper telephone function…I am dreaming of it since watching Knight Rider as a kid!!!!!!!
FR165 – yes ENTRY LEVEL !! I think I used quote marks ‘entry Level’. I was going to use ‘budget option’ but that wan’t right either !!!!!!!!
My Apple Watch works fine as a phone! Good signal, clear sound….I jsut look a bit stupid moving my wrist between my ear and mount.
Funny the generational comments as when I was a kid you’d refer to Dick Tracy when talking about watch-phones. (I’m in your Knight-rider generation too btw). Just a funny observation.
“However, Garmin’s Forerunner 265s may well represent the small-format triathlon watch in Garmin’s stable, albeit a lowly-featured one.”
Fully disagree. Maybe the case size is comparable to 745, but display much smaller. I’m not willing to pay money for even smaller display. I need a FR 765 with case and screen size like Epix 42.
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let’s see waht they come up with
FR265s 1.1″ (28.1 mm) diameter
FR265 1.3″ (32.5 mm) diameter
FR165 rumoured to be 1.2″
epix 42mm 1.2″ (30,4 mm) diameter
epix 47mm 1.3″ (33 mm) diameter
what i particularly like about my fr265 is that it is the same case size as the fr255 but with a bigger display (AMOLED). so garmin should be able to put larger displays onto its existing/chosen watch format sizes.
Yeah, they really screwed up the 265s and the 255s with the ridiculous 1.1″ display. Well the 265s even more so with the weird non-flat display shape.
Gibt es schon was von einer Garmin 975?