28 thoughts on “Garmin FCC Filings 2024 – new product hints”

1. Test report and its “Co-Location” variant for IPH-04630 say smart watch. Looks like ISM band and NFC. IPH-0S4355 is the Neo 3M, I guess the lines have been mixed up? I guess a “Tacx Climb” must be due now that the latest Neo has a rotating axle. Seems a bit lame to call it Stelvio, but I guess a dutch company has limited options… (hey, Camerig has 183m of climb, if you squint a little and ignore that it’s not continuous! https://www.quaeldich.de/paesse/camerig/ )

   device.report (a delightfully chaotic certification etc aggregator) suggests that IPH-04868 is some GPSMAP unit (boat stuff): https://device.report/garmin/a04868

   1. Garmin, of all the companies on the market, is very difficult to decipher. It leaves few clues, and decision-makers speak very vaguely, enigmatically or evasively in interviews. As if they couldn’t say it directly… “Yes, we’re working on something like that” or “No, we don’t plan to implement it in the next few years.” I don’t understand what the purpose of hiding everything like this is. Garmin doesn’t really have anything comparable to most of its equipment anyway. And even more clearly… Globally, no one can threaten him for now. Hiding all the information in an armored bunker serves no purpose. Even on the Garmin forum, you never know what features will be introduced, which bugs will be fixed, which applications will be improved. Only users, customers and Beta testers are treated like the rest of society.

      1. Nothing worse than pre-announcing something, making buyers postpone and then be disappointed by the release: chances are the disappointment will make them buy from a competitor even if in absence of the release their decision would have fallen on the predecessor. That’s very different when a company does not have a predecessor, e.g. Hammerhead played a very long preannouncement game for the first Karoo. For v2 they went silent.

         When preannouncements do happen, they are usually related to the stock market requirements (or manipulations, e.g. to game bonus payment criteria) and Gramin does not really have any products so central in their portfolio that playing with pre-release anouncements could make much difference one way or the other.

      2. there are also issues around pre-announcements affecting dealer pre-orders.
         some companies complicate matters with restrictive deliveries after launch so they can sell direct to early adopters.

         it’s all a very complicated process especially for the likes of Garmin

2. Bet it’s a watch. Ray’s hiking in the mountains.

   1. Wanted to write it: he is doing a Madeira west to east, last time Imke did something was his hike around MontBlanc, I think it was the Enduro 2 wich was released then.

      1. true, true
         instinct 3 would also be appropriate. tho E-w Madeira must be 3-5 day depending on route. Shouldn’t be a problem for any of the garmin outdoor endurance watches (he is using epix and grit x2

3. i hope it is the 1050!!

4. IPH-04630 is definitively a Watch, not the TACX Neo 3M
   A Watch containing WIFI, BT and LTE, so interesting stuff.
   https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/IPH-04630/
   Any Speculations on what it will be?
   Forerunner 965 LTE would be my perfect watch 😀

   1. Can you share what the indicator behind the LTE belief is?

      1. SAR Report App C-2 and C-3.
         Habe not seen These in the fcc files on seither the fenix7 (pro) , epix (pro) or Forerunner 965 before.

      2. My Bad.. I stand corrected, I misread the appendix, so no LTE.

   2. I guess it is bike computer. Becuse of E-label:
      Viewing Device Information
      You can view device information, such as theE-label, unit ID, software version, regulatory information, and license agreement.
      1 Press “O” (ring symbol is used on larger displays..)
      2 Select Settings > About.

   3. But in SAR report, there is Samartwatch written, so it should watch!

5. Confirming I also see the smartwatch in the SAR report @jack

6. IPH-04185 is coming out of confidentiality on 2024-04-17. Touchscreen device (“from the main menu”) and the ID screen usually associated with watches? Don’t see any confidentiality earlier in april

   1. perhaps suggesting 16april as a date for whatever it is.

   2. The Garmin model # in the e-label is the Lily 2. This device appears to be only BT, which would be consistent with the Lily 3, as the Lily line only BTs to a phone, and has no ANT+ radio (nor GPS).

      1. Take that back, the Lily2 just came out… But otherwise the (lack of) radios on this wearable is consistent with the Lily line.

7. So nothing was introduced at 9 April?

   1. nothing as far as we’re concerned…i had bad intel on the date which was mistaken as a product release

8. How are we feeling about 4/16 though @tfk?

   1. feeling good but nervous to put pen to paper to say it having been burnt by last week’s faulty intel

9. Hi Guys!
   I just make some quick investment at my work :-). I found new circular body worn BLE/ANT sensor coming. I guess new RD pod like Stryd.
   IPH-A4714 – Some FR? Probably without NFC Amoled watch maybe FR65? 8/24
   IPH-04770 – New sensor 5/24 https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/IPH-04770/

   1. test report of 4770 (May) says “This product tested is a transceiver for multiple types of diving purposes.” Not sure if Fenix would be dive-tested.

      1. Ah, I missed that. 😁

      2. Maybe OHR strap?

10. Interestingly there is a short-term confidentiality release date (MM/DD/YYYY format): 05/12/2024

    External Photos External Photos 2024-05-12 00:00:00
    Internal Photos Internal Photos 2024-05-12 00:00:00

    Maybe later this week or next we will see what this device is. The most interesting thing I think is that it is battery operated and no I/O Ports for charging???

    5.2 Key Parameters
    EUT Input Power:Battery operated 3Vdc
    I/O Ports:None
    Radio Transceivers:Bluetooth Low Energy, ANT
    Radio Receivers:None
    Primary Functions:Sharing data between different devices
    Typical use location: Body worn
    Highest internal frequency:2.484GHz
    Firmware RevisionV0.985

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